Posts by Divergent

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So you've successfully faded

by ctrwtf in

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so i'm pretty sure my fade is complete.

haven't stepped foot inside a kh in 9 years.

but the concept of fading still makes me wonder.

Divergent

What "sins" have I committed? All of the above, with the exception of getting a tattoo, excessive drinking, and donating to religious organizations. Also the addition of the following:

— Fornication. Humans are sexual beings and sex is a basic human need which should not be repressed, as long as it does not result in the hurt of others

— "Worldly" association. Lots of it!

— Association with disfellowshipped ones / "apostates". There is a growing number of such individuals who I know personally and keep in touch with

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Today's Text - How To Be A Judgemental A**hole!

by Divergent in

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saturday, august 19. make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others.—phil.

1:10.. how can we train our conscience?

key ways are by regularly and prayerfully studying the bible, meditating on what we read, and then putting into practice what we have learned.

Divergent

Saturday, August 19
Make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others.—Phil. 1:10.
How can we train our conscience? Key ways are by regularly and prayerfully studying the Bible, meditating on what we read, and then putting into practice what we have learned. Obviously, this involves more than accumulating facts and learning rules. Our study of the Bible should gradually give us an ever more precise picture of Jehovah, his personality, his qualities, and what he likes or dislikes. Our conscience becomes attuned to the ways of Jehovah God. This should stir our heart, moving us to want to become more and more like him. However, if we cannot understand the conscientious decision of a fellow believer on some personal matter, we should not quickly judge him or feel that we ought to pressure him to change his mind. Perhaps his conscience is still “weak” and in need of more training or is too sensitive on certain issues.—1 Cor. 8:11, 12. w15 9/15 2:4,8, 10

So JW's SHOULD NOT quickly judge others or pressure them to change their minds, BUT it is the OTHER person who is assumed to have a weak conscience and in need of more training and said to be too sentitive??? That ironically makes what was said before it about NOT judging completely irrelevant!!! Double-speak at its very best!

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

Divergent

With much thought, research, study and logical examination

Looks like it wasn't much at all. Enjoy wasting away the rest of your life as a slave in the cult

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Born Ins, How Did Your Parents Get "The Truth™"?

by pale.emperor in

born ins are in a unique position in that we never knew any other way of life.

no birthdays, christmas and overly superstitious family just seemed normal.

when my parents talked about their pre-jw life it seemed like they were talking about completely different people (actually, that's true, the cult had taken their real selves).. so i'd be interested in hearing how your parents were indoctrinated.. my dad.

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My parents were both contacted in their teens. Both of them came from poor families. My dad had lost his father and my mum had an alcoholic father and a mother with severe OCD. Both were at an impressionable age with dysfunctional families and few friends. The desire to find comfort and a greater meaning in life got them sucked into "the truth". My dad ultimately rose to great prominence in the organization and eventually even ended up on the branch committee. My mum pioneered for many years and brought quite a number into "the truth". I guess they fall into the category of people who actually found fulfilment in "the truth". Being well-known and successful with many JW friends, they are quite happy and contented with life... apart from the fact that I - the son who they had spent all these years training to be a good JW - went rogue and left "the truth" in pursuit of a "worldly" girl

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A Short Life Story - Part 2

by pale.emperor in

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part 1 in here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5961287718666240/short-life-story-part-1.

so im 19, i decided to shut up and put all my doubts about god even existing to the back of my mind and just go along with it.

im sure things will be explained eventually, all i need is to humble myself and do more in "the truth" right?.

Divergent

This is EXACTLY why I believe in living together BEFORE marriage. In JW land, you'll NEVER get to experience and REALLY UNDERSTAND what living together with the other person is actually like BEFORE you decide to spend the rest of your life WITH them!

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New Cringe Worthy Music Video From July Broadcast

by JW_Rogue in

the song is supposedly about marveling at god's creation but instead includes over the top adoration of the elders, conventions, and family worship.

lol getting a brother who sounds like a wannabe josh groban only adds to the cheesiness.

https://youtu.be/tzxf25gvs_m.

Divergent

Agree with all the other comments here... apart from what has already been said, just would like to add that the song sounded very dull & drab... unsurprisingly. Just like the majority of the other JW songs. It sounded like the composers were trying to squeeze the lyrics INTO the song! Plus the reference about the convention being "the best one yet" was totally vomit-inducing!

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JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues

by Chook in

it's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.

the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.

gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.

Divergent

The problem is many JW's put up with the lack of love problem by using the 'imperfect men' excuse. They might view it as a local problem which pales in comparison to the "worldwide brotherhood". They justify it by thinking that there is still no better religion and that Jokehova would set things straight in his due time. The fact is that many ARE aware that there is a lack of love, YET fail to do anything about it due to the reasons above. It was however a major factor which led me to discover TTATT

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Stupid Illustration

by FedUpJW in

so as i sit here listening to the sunday morning bs session the elder on the stage yapped about religion and that there can only be one religion leading to god.

he used the illustration of a bicycle wheel.

it has many spokes and they all lead to the center.

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Stupidest illustration: Jehovah / Jesus / the elders are like shepherds who care for the flock

Is everyone so dumb as to NOT realize that the sheep being cared for are slaughtered for food in the end???

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Who Is The Most Unlike-Able Member Of The Governing Body?

by pale.emperor in

vote here: https://goo.gl/hynuaz.

results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxm2j.

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Unsurprisingly, Anthony Morris is currently in the lead lol

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Did a current or ex-JW help you to awaken?

by TweetieBird in

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was there something that was said to you that got the wheel turning in your brain, that caused you to start waking up to ttatt, either by a jw or ex-jw that you didn't know was awake?

i'm trying to think of things i can say or ask of my current family members still in that may help them to start seeing the real truth about the organization.

they think we're still in..

Divergent

This approach might not work for your family, but the point it touches on really made me think:

"I read in the news the other day about a father who killed his own child. Don't you agree with me that this is disgusting? A father who kills his own children!"

(JW would definitely agree that this is horrible, repulsive, unloving, etc.)

"So you agree? Now think about your belief that your so-called "loving father" Jehovah would kill billions of his children at Armageddon!!!