Maybe this is why they are now trying to flood everyones consciousness with the blue square.
Embarrassed by the old symbolism - much?
thanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
Maybe this is why they are now trying to flood everyones consciousness with the blue square.
Embarrassed by the old symbolism - much?
want to thank everyone that's posted on the other thread the advise is much appreciated and i will look at all the ideas before i proceed.
i wanted to talk about the advise concerning stopping my kids from going to meetings and or stopping the jw's from studying with my kids.
first a little background on my situation.. im still married and still living with my wife.
You may have to pretend to believe - for their sake and to win them back.
A sacrifice worth making if you want them to ever wake up.
thanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
want to thank everyone that's posted on the other thread the advise is much appreciated and i will look at all the ideas before i proceed.
i wanted to talk about the advise concerning stopping my kids from going to meetings and or stopping the jw's from studying with my kids.
first a little background on my situation.. im still married and still living with my wife.
You need to take one thing at a time. Attempting to stop them from attending the meetings with their mother will be counterproductive.
But you have every right to study with your own kids. Try this.
To get everybody used to the idea, let them know you will be studying with them from now on but you will sit in on their study with the MS for a month or so to give them time to adjust to the change and for you to observe how he is doing it. Then after that have the MS still attend but you conduct the study and inform the MS that he is free to stay or go after that.
Invite the the M S to go fishing or hiking with you and the boys and you might even wake him up aswell.
Patience and diplomacy.
thanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
Sausage fest aside, there is quite a resemblance. But, don't all watchtowers have a similar design.
I think CTR cobbled together many ideas to start a religion, none of which were holy spririt just images and ideas from everyday life at that time.
yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).
( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).
i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.
Outlaw - thankyou, exactly, just don't request some dude's head on a plate for your b/day and everything will be fine.
Having a head shaped cake would be much tastier.
ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
For Ray to do what he did from where and when he was doing it, in my eyes makes him a courageous man.
He is a hero in my book, and I'm grateful to anyone who in their own "imperfect" way has beaten down the path to ttatt for the rest of us to go down. Yes in our own way as well.
We needed people like him.
i'm wanting to set up a youtube channel exposing what goes on at meetings and the hypocrisy that goes on.
trouble is i'm not exactly welcome at the meetings if you know what i mean!!!
i was wondering if anyone out there in uk or us could let me have a khconf number and pin so i can record parts of the meeting and expose them on the tube.
The meetings are public, so unless they have a restraining order against you or you are breaking the law no one can physically evict you from the public meeting.
Do you mean that you are disfellowshipped and not allowed to talk to anyone?
Because to me that would make sureptitiously recording the meetings easier not harder.
there's a interesting situation emerging where i live and i want to share it all with you because its proof i think jehovah has pulled his holy spirit away.
when elders think they can steal from the government and pretend to be holy, than jehovah god has left us!.
yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).
( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).
i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.