Posts by sparrowdown

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Why did you choose Jehovahs Witnesses?

by vinman in

i'm wondering why ones on this forum initially became jw's.

if you were born in, why did you make it "your own"?

if you became one later, what was your draw and driving force?

sparrowdown

The way I see it I didn't choose JWs they chose me. They came to my door uninvited. Then they set about convincing me that they were on a mission from God and I was young and vulnerable enough to believe them.

Once they had me in their sights the couple that studied with me were relentless, calling several times a week and telling me how smart and special and loved I was for accepting the study. Looking back now, they were so attentive to my every need it was creepy and stalkerish I should have known it was too good to be true.

So in a way they chose me.

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Every appearance of “This Generation” in Matthew, Mark and Luke.

by Doug Mason in

1. did jesus use the term this generation as a compliment?

2. was jesus speaking to people living at that time?

3. was jesus speaking about people living at that time?

sparrowdown

It's not like the WT is dogmatic about it......is it.....anyone. I mean they have added the tethering word "overlapping"

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

Thanks island man for your insights the JW psyche is a gold mine of dysfunctional thinking that could keep a team of sociology and psyche students researching for years. Religious thugs is what they are!!

wisdomfrombelow - The reason I rang her is because she lives in a different state a plane ride and four hours drive away. We already had a strained relationship due to her WT fervor and GB worship, like many JWs she is very passive aggressive and manipulative and believe me seeing her in person would have been absolutely traumatic to me. You cannot reason with a religious abuser or an indoctrinated person. As for the FU, I don't normally send them being the lady that I am but she needed to know where we stand in no uncertain terms and FU is so elegantly simple and effective. Thanks for your thoughts all opinions help.

Thanks for the cyber hugs alive and back at ya.

You and the Mrs' offer of support means a helluva lot to me Mr Flipper, expect me to take you up on a pm or two.

Sabin - head towards the exit and get down low and go, go go! Exactly!

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Every appearance of “This Generation” in Matthew, Mark and Luke.

by Doug Mason in

1. did jesus use the term this generation as a compliment?

2. was jesus speaking to people living at that time?

3. was jesus speaking about people living at that time?

sparrowdown

Interesting, I partcularly like the idea of "is it used as a compliment" that is a great question.

Well JWs have clocked up a few "this" generations by now, that the WT call "this overlapping generation" (of assholes) who look for a sign etc blah, blah.

The biggest problem the WT has at the moment is something I like to call generation creep, which is a bit like what the military call mission creep.

The next biggest problem for the WT is apostates and others pointing it out to them.

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

Thanks ToesUp, or as I like to think of you (little piggies)

Yeah, fmf, I can think of more fun ways to get exhausted. (I mean like going on a hike or dancing all night, minds out of the gutter please!)

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

That sounds better oubi, I'd rather be loved too.

So right, LUHE, in any other context the idea that you will become dead to all that know you and even "brothers and sisters" you have never met simply because you no longer believe what they believe or wish to attend their meetings any longer is ludicrous to anyone but a nazi or an isis member.

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

We all have the inner strength to live our truth without their lies, it just needs nurturing and gradually ridding yourself of the self-limiting belief system that years of indoctrination has installed in our brains.

That is a very tempting evil plan wing commander, but this time I fully intend to stand up and be counted as a vote of no-confidence in the WTBTS, if it comes to that, but I am not going to actively seek them out F them they can come to me if they really want to know.

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Sickening opportunists!

by username in

ok so i just had to go over to the darkside (jwtalk) and see what is the latest buzz.

i wish i hadn't now because i'm blazing mad at the jw's reply to the current refugee crisis.. am i the only one who thinks this is really sick?.

op:.

sparrowdown

Typical, JWs see the poor and disadvantaged as fair game and become annoyed if they don't readily lap up their bs, and ask "what prevents me from getting baptized?" Those ungrateful refugees!

Not to mention those pesky actual charitable groups trying to make the camps a recruitment free zone - the nerve!

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

Thanks so much to all of you for your kind words of support.

To answer the question of whether I have friends to support me the answer is no. I have woken up and left on my own only with the help of forums such as this and you tube videos of brave souls telling it like it is. Thanks Kate Wild and others. It has been a long lonely road out as pre-emptive shunning began in earnest by a few individuals after only a few months of not attending meetings. This was in stark contrast to how I was previously treated ie being "used" for meeting parts and assignments at assemblies etc.

I have no idea how of what my dear sister is going to do with the info, but I am ready for whatever happens. If they come asking I have decided to speak my truth quietly and clearly and then request they do not contact me again.

I have thought of a twist to an old saying.

Life is a bitch and then you die....or as I'd prefer

Shunning is a bitch and then you live!! Your comment reminded me of that d4g.

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

sparrowdown

Thank you Lisa Rose. You have reminded me of something I would like to say to any JW/exJW woman out there who has not figured this out yet.

Listen up ladies

You are NOT mad, bad or irelevant if you disagree with the organization or the bible or the elders or your husband or your father or anyone with a penis.

You have a right to your own opinion and you have a right to voice it, without being labeled a "Jezebel."