Posts by sparrowdown

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

Is it even possible to be in 100% hand on heart agreement with such a contradictory inconsistent belief sytem?

I now find it ridiculous that that is what the GB expect. Mind control at it's best.

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Faith and Lies.

by sparrowdown in

if you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single wt teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?.

i know, i definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation.

i would have tripped up on questions about blood, dfing and non jws being marked for destruction just to name a few.

sparrowdown

If you were hooked up to a polygraph machine when you were still an asleep, kool-aid drinking dub and asked if you agree 100% with every single WT teaching (asked as individual questions and collectively), would you have "passed" with no signs of deception?

I know, I definitely would not have "passed" such an interegation. I would have tripped up on questions about blood, DFing and non JWs being marked for destruction just to name a few.

This realization caused me to see how I was just lying to myself about what I believed and wondered how many JWs would show no signs of deception when queried on their faith? I'm not debating the accuracy of polygraphs since they only measure physiological responses which can be caused for all sorts non- deceptive reasons, just generally speaking that's all.

So what does this say about my (then) faith and belief?

It was not real even though I thought it was and was willing to die for it!!

Any thoughts?

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GoFundMe - JW Pioneer & LDC Couple

by Listener in

jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.

this is his youtube .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.

sparrowdown

Yeah, seems to be a bit of that going around.

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GoFundMe - JW Pioneer & LDC Couple

by Listener in

jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.

this is his youtube .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.

sparrowdown

Is this a thing now, funding dubs to participate in this "once in a lifetime work?"

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

sparrowdown

S&L - pardon me, but, you claim in your intro post that you are not apostate, (in other words you still believe the WT to be God's only true Organization and all their teachings are correct) then, why oh why, would you come to an obviously apostate site to ask for advice and money?

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

sparrowdown

You are just not used to people being honest about their thoughts and feelings.

You are not in Kansas anymore Dorothy, people here will tell you what they really think, so be careful what you ask.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

sparrowdown

Yep, pretty much.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

sparrowdown

Ah yeah, I have read your other posts and my suggestion still stands.

Grow a pair.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

sparrowdown

You do know you have rights don't you?

JWs may shun you in a social sense but they cannot take away your legal rights or property.

Stand up for yourself man.

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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

by William Penwell in

in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

sparrowdown

Meanwhile, back at WT Ranch, the born-ins are all happy and well adjusted, with no hang-ups what...so..ever!!!

Well done born-ins, you dodged a real crazy-bullet there 😉

But maybe that's for another thread.