Posts by sparrowdown

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Does the governing body know what they are doing?

by Gefangene in

what do you guys think?.

are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

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I think the GB are delusional narcissists on a power trip, in love with their own refection, as well as the sound of their own voice (which desribes any elder really). They think they are carrying out God's will and they were chosen by Jesus to do so. Which is exactly why they are so dangerous.They are at the top of the pyramid of power and that means they have access to more information than anyone below them, but are they just a false front, useful idiots for some other string-puller?

Who knows and I doubt we will ever know for sure.

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All 2016 Convention videos in English and all Talk outlines for download

by Watchtower-Free in

all convention videos in english and all talk outlines for download.

http://avoidjw.org/2016-regional-convention/

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Fear porn, total fear porn!

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I think I figured out their strategy with all the creepy videos

by JeffT in

i came in during all the hype over 1975. the predictions about that date were the real driver behind all their activity.

since then, they haven't had a good goad to prod the sheep.

they seem to be smart enough not to try another date.. i think they plan to use fear instead.

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Exactly! TV Screens are the most effective way of dispensing fear-based propoganda there is.

It's absolutely no surprise to me that the WT has become a broadcasting studio.

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Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.

2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.

3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.

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No matter what you say you're still serving kool-aid.

So you could ask

What flavour of kool-aid do you like brothers and sisters?

or

How did you enjoy your kool-aid this morning?

Or

Please, brothers and sisters only answer directly from the propoganda.

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Field Service Privilege Can Be Taken Away Due to Hairstyle and Tight Pants???

by Wild_Thing in

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millie2105 hours agohere is something i just found out this week.former belief - field service is a publishers inalienable right new belief - field service privilege can be taken away if person styles hair or wears clothing in a way that is deemed metrosexual.i was pretty much dumbfounded.. this was posted on another thread, so i decided to start a new topic about this.

i think this is amazing!

i wish this was in place when i was a kid.

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No, this not new but putting it in an official directive may be. Just thinking about this, if the elders can refuse you your participation in field service then are they by doing so accepting responsibility for FS being an official "church" activity. If FS is an official "church" activity then is the congregation and by extension WT legally liable for the actions and safety of the people that participate as representatives of the WT and the householders they call on?

WT better watch out they may be opening a can of worms.

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Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

by Londo111 in

every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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Why so glowing?

JWs are boring.

JW conventions are boring.

Most cities and towns advertise acts, performances, and conventions that come to town as a way of advertising the city or town.

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

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Yes TB, you are the boss of you, and you have the right to make your own decisions and by getting baptized as a JW you will be giving up that right. You need to be crystal clear on that. They will try and gloss over that and tell you it's for your own benefit etc but that is a lie! Giving up your personal right to think and decide is never in your best interest.

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

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TeaBiscuit "Of course the organisation sees it differently"

You have answered your own question. The organization's opinion is the only one that matters.

JW message is quite simple you either agree with everything the GB says, give up your personal thoughts and feelings and your right to decide on your own personal matters or you don't. There is no negotiating or compromising with these people and their rules.

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RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witnesses face possible liquidation

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.

24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.

by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.

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I believe WT is against freedom of religion. You can't become a JW and decide to go along to the catholic church at the same time, yet I could decide to become catholic and go the KH at the same time.

WT are lying hypocrites and deserve what's coming to them from Governments that see through their "freedom of religion" bullshit.

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

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Yes, if you decide to be baptised what you think about what the scripture means doesn't count, so get used to that feeling.