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  does the watchtower receive govenment subsides for their learn to read studies in 3rd. world countries?

  by nowwhat? in

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  just wondering.

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  I'd say it goes toward them keeping their charity = tax exempt status.

  Quite sickening really that they teach people how to shun family, refuse blood, be homophobic, sexist and be a walking talking billboard for their cult and WT benefits.
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  Quite Possibly The Most Sinister Speaker Ever?

  by pale.emperor in

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  hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.

  and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.

  i see a future governing body member in the making here:.

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  That choir is like the worst boy band - ever! The back passage boys.
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  Quite Possibly The Most Sinister Speaker Ever?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.

  and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.

  i see a future governing body member in the making here:.

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  Boy, to be a Bethel elder these days you have to be a triple threat singer, actor and ass-kisser extrordinaire.
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  Quite Possibly The Most Sinister Speaker Ever?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.

  and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.

  i see a future governing body member in the making here:.

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  It's those eyes, with that cold stare, this guy could play a creepy serial killer or Bond villain that tortures his victims by reading them WT publications.
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  JWs kinda admit to not being Christian

  by NikL in

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  2. beliefs

  during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.

  a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.

  faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.

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  Hell yeah, they definitely put Jesus in the corner. Actually I remember how they used to point out quite regularly that the congregations belonged to Jesus and he was the head of the org, now....not so much - if at all, it's always "Jehovah's organization."

  Plus, what kind of anul-retentive psycho keeps a running total of the times Jehovah and Jesus are mentioned and turns it into a competition? Oh that's right WT.
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  How does an elder become an elder ?

  by Drwho in

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  i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .

  please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?

  simon.

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  How does an elder become an elder?

  As others have pointed out be perpetually "available" for any...any assignment that comes your way particularly ones the other elders don't want to do like volunteering to take the FS group on public holidays. Appear eager to help but not ambitious. And the most important is to put your lips together and suck like your life depends upon it. It also helps to marry a theocratic "it" girl like the COBEs daughter or local pioneer.
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  Poopie so happy now . Based on the new awake I can now smile

  by poopie in

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  at disfellowshipped people the awake gave me permission poopie so happy.

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  Whaaaaat....r u saying there is an awake article that says smiling at DFed people is allowed in the backroom?

  Or, r u saying there is an awake article about smiling and you decided to smile at the DFed people as a kind of silent smiling protest of DFing?

  Or, is there some othe reason you are smiling like a crazy person at the meetings?
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  Witnesses illusion that they have their OWN conscience!! What a joke! Examples.

  by Witness 007 in

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  witnesses always claim to have a "bible trained conscience" yet they are really just watchtower robots who cant piss without checking with an elder or watchtower.

  an elder who cuts hair was scared when i asked for a bald buzz cut since my hair was receding and grey.

  he actually rang a bethel elder to see if this was okay watchtower wise!

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  Bible trained conscience = WT programmed mind.

  And you know the old saying...garbage in garbage out
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  Hi forum

  by A Believer in

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  i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

  i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

  i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

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  My, my I agree with MR OUTLAW in saying all this insight after a couple of weeks of "studying religion" hey?

  So who, where and what are you getting your info from? What are your sources other than jw dot?

  Just curious because to arrive at this stunningly sudden conversion to JWism after only a few weeks is remarkable.
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  "But I was just following order and directions!" The 'outsourcing' of personal responsibility

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  a thought struck me that throughout history people have often claimed that "i was simply following orders and directions" when it comes to their actions or beliefs.. instead of using logical thinking skills to determine if the course of action is correct, they just assume that it is based on a superior telling them so.. think of someone handling finances for a corrupt boss.

  if asked to hide sums of money illegally, can they just say to the authorities "i was just following directions"?.

  or as we know, war crimes have occurred in history and the same excuses have been used.. similarly, it seems that witnesses "outsource" their thinking abilities to the society and gb and think and act exactly as directed...even if such changes dramatically as have many, many teachings and beliefs.. think of all the far out and strange things in the society's history.

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  JW's will say to people that "nobody is forcing me" to refuse blood, go D2D/meetings, shun etc. They will say their lifestyle is their own personal decision and WT doesn't tell anyone what to do. This of course is backed up by WT who says "we don't force anyone to do anything, each one carries his own load...blah blah..."

  It got me thinking that WT actually operates like a form of "leaderless resistance" group made up of "lone wolfs."

  Individual JWs that if questioned over their decisions will claim they are acting on their own conscience, independently of WT.

  This means there is effectively no clear line of blame or reponsibilty or culpability leading to WT.

  Of course not blaming WT gets harder to do when you are an elder or bethelite but as we saw by the ARC they tried their best to not bring "Mother" into it.

  Diabloical when you think about it and very frustrating for victims and lawyers alike.