Posts by sparrowdown

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Last Sunday's WT Study re Anxiety

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

this article could be seen as a nice read compared with the banality and repetitiveness of many articles in recent years.

however, several areas in the article still troubled me.

paragraph one externalises the cause of an individual’s anxiety to satan the devil.

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Witnesses that believe everything the WT says are doomed to live with the perpetual anxiety that comes from never quite living up to WT's requirements basically because it's impossible to "fulfill the whole law" or get off Jehovah's hamster wheel. WT knows this they're not stupid, it's how successful cults work afterall. Set up an unachievable standard a cult classic.

So, even their articles on relieving anxiety induce anxiety, not because of the hamster wheel the sheeple find themselves chained to but because the message from WT is "stupid sheeple you can't even manage your anxiety the right way."

So disempowering! Which btw is also what cults like WT do.

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The true cost of being raised as a witness

by stuckinarut2 in

how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.

most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!

and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.

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Good points Perry.

I think all JWs are emotionally unreachable. They have suppressed, repressed, stuffed, bashed over the head and buried in the backyard all their natural, original thoughts and feelings and this makes having a relationship one of

them dificult at best impossible at worst.

The first thing I did when waking up was to set out to find me, sounds cliche but when you have been denying your own thoughts and feelings for so long you need to become reaquainted with your true self, where you end and WT begins, what are your thoughts/feelings and what were embeded there by WT.

Once I did this the "fake" became unbearable to deal with. I could probly "play the game" "stick to the script" when I see JWs but I can't stand pretending anymore just to make them and their deluded brains feel better.

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Hit by a car evacuating due to oroville dam. Ever been hit?

by Wasanelder Once in

went back to get info from driver who tapped our car in line of cars exiting the area.

after getting her info, she waited till i walked back to our car and punched the gas, hitting me.

then drove off.

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That's awful Wasanelder! There are some crazy people out there that will use panic-inducing situations to behave appallingly. Hope you're ok.

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Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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Is it ok if I woohoo! DD? Anyway I just did.

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In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

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Most of the Brother Average elders I would say are indoctrinated deceived deceivers.

There would be some who know it's BS and there would be others who are in the various stages of doubting, waking up etc.

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This one's for you, WTBTS Inc.

by DATA-DOG in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z8luw9skquy.

dd.

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Or "Say something I'm giving up on you."

Oops too late.

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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Aww...rise above the peepee party style accusations - but there sooo fun.

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

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What is my opinion of the news media?

Probably "with a grain of salt" as they say. I don't think everything is a lie but nor do I believe everything unthinkingly either. Most stuff unless you are actually there how would you know what was said and what happened etc you are relying on reports of reports of reports.

I think with the news we get important stuff like context and background is a casualty of the public's need for the quick easy catchphrase to pass along and inaccuracies are too often repeated and ran with by minor, less conscientious news stations/ outlets.

But hell what would I know so what does it matter what I think, but thanks for asking.

The real story behind headlines and sound bites you would need to research for yourself just like everything in life.

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Does enforced shunning violate free will?

by poopie in

jw
friends

and ..

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Every individual JW is free to choose whether to obey the GB or not - they just don't know it.

It is a prison of the mind you are in as a JW, which is difficult to prove.

Waking up to this is like you and your loved ones have been sitting in a prison cell for years when you get up one day and finally trying to open the door you discover it's actually never been locked and walking out past the guards to find out they never had the physical power to stop you and their guns are props.

It sucks donkey dong and it is difficult and scary to disobey the GB but people can always use the magic word when it comes to shunning or any other GB imposed rules, and that word is NO!

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Disfellowshipped 2x adultry divorce remarried getting divorce to write my wrong

by IDontKnowMe77 in

this is bit hard for me but im lost and don't know what to do.. 2010-married to a disfellowship person after only knowing him 3 months i began studying baptized few months later and he was reinstated same year.. i committed adultry 3-4 times in first 2 years of marriage he forgave me.

he was a recovering alcoholic and fell off wagon hard when i tried to fix my wrong it was way out of hand he moved in drug addicts in the home we fought constantly i tried to get personal studies with a sister to keep going but i failed at that and left my husband i left for another man 2 in half years later im looking to divorce because well what goes around comes around and he committed adultery on me .

i got what was coming for thinking i would live happy ever after.

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Forget your ex and move on. You can't fix other people, only yourself.