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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

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  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  sparrowdown

  Going by Angus Stewarts opening remarks over a thousand items sent from all over the world since the last hearing round "predominantly negative."

  It's in folk the world agrees WT are assholes.
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  ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  sparrowdown

  Wow, the illustrious WT reps are again looking like obfuscating inept arseholes.
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  Was/Is Religion Useful Even if it isn't True?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in his book "the righteous mind" jonathan haidt proposes that religion served - and continues to serve an important role in bringing about cohesion within non-kin groups.. to put it very briefly haidt advocates a form of group selection but only insofar as it applies to humans.

  our unique brains have made it possible for us to cooperate in groups in ways that are impossible for all non-human species.

  despite their intelligence you will never see two chimps helping each other to carry the same log or one chimp pulling down a branch while the other removes the fruit.. his description is that humans are 90% chimp and 10% bee.

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  The grouping of people who share a similar view or belief can make them more cohesive and cooperative and tap into the "master" mind, that is a co-ordination of knowledge and effort for the attainment of a definite purpose but can also promote mindlessness, create order followers and stifle innovation and new ideas.
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  "You are my witnesses says Jehovah"

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "you are my witnesses says jehovah".. this is going to show you how poor my knowledge of the bible has been.. i thought there was a scripture that says the quoted phrase (at least in nwt).

  i could swear that i heard it for years quoted in talks.. i went to find it this morning and found nothing of the sort.

  am i an anomaly or do any of you remember this as well?.

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  sparrowdown

  I remember the scripture saying "You are my witnesses is the utterence of Jehovah"

  Not "says"

  Sorry if this has been said already the pages and comments are weird.
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  The Danger of Settlements

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.

  conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.

  i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).

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  I don't care if WT goes down by being crippled by lawsuits or fines, crash and burn, shrivel on the vine, death by a thousand cuts...
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  Which is worse according to the GB: Child Abuse or Apostasy??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we all know how the organization conducts itself regarding child abuse.

  the multitude of legal cases worldwide including the current australian royal commission as well as anecdotal accounts prove their attitude.. perpetrators have not been reported to authorities, and data bases of such have been kept sealed even when demanded by the courts!.

  however, when it comes to those of us who have simply left the organization due to learning the truth, the society spares no effort in spreading gossip and ensuring that one's name and reputation is ruined.. so gb, which crime is worse?

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  According to the GB there is no crime/sin worse than apostasy.

  Hell, Hitler will be in the paradise just for being dead but we apostates - NOT! lol.
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  March Broadcast Governing Body Truly Enjoy our new Facility Warwick

  by Buster k in

  1. social
  2. current

  hello everyone first post, i will leave my whole story for another post.

  but i would like to say hello to everyone and wish everyone here much love and support.

  and i should also note of my self i might say things that are odd or makes no sense, but then that is my humour.

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  sparrowdown

  Hey Buster k, welcome to the beautiful wonderful jungle/asylum of freedom. I too have a wicked sense of humour not everyone gets - don't worry bout it.

  Now re your post.

  I hope the GB do like their new facility as they will be dying there or is that rapturing...taking the elevator to heaven?

  What do you call what the GB think they will be doing?

  Oh that's right they will be joining Jesus in heaven to exterminate horribly the majority of mankind yaaaaay.

  Fun times ahead for the GB.
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  Is Jehovah God guilty of the Sin of Omission ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .

  natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?

  or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.

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  Meh "Jehovah" smehovah. These tales of so-called "do this or else" as written by men and interpreted by men have been used by religion for thousands of years to control people. When you are trying to control people with fear the less detail you give the more effective the fear.
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  February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

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  february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

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  I can see a future where the "If you could see what I see" carts are lost and alone in the big city.
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  Sample Disassociation Letter please?

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.

  how do i address it and what wording do i use?

  i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.

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  sparrowdown

  The letter is for you not them so the formalities are not that important - they will still accept it regardless.

  Say what was the deal breaker for you in a concise way (I doubt they bother to read long letters) and you cannot in all good conscience support an organization such as this any longer etc etc you get the drift.

  All the best with it and I hope it helps you move on.