Not necessarily a lie, when WT says in effect "give up everything" for (I'm assuming) the "pearl of high value" it basically means give up everything that is incompatible with being a JW. Or IOW anything that might limit your ability to be a fully functioning recruiting agent for WT.
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The WatchTower conductor lied on stage
by Isambard Crater inon sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.
when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?
i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.
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How many times can you be DF'd?
by Fader812 inthere was one guy in our hall who got df'd 3 times, on the fourth time he never came back.
i wonder if they told him not to come back?
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sparrowdown
Ugh, just the thought it. People that find themselves DFed and then go through the demeaning reinstatement process more than once could be considered gluttons for punishment I spose.
The old saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results being the definition of insanity springs to mind as well.
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ARC recommendations. Read for yourselves
by zeb inhttps://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2017-08/report-on-criminal-justice-released.
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sparrowdown
Thanks for posting zeb.
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Will religion ever truly be accountable for the abuse it has inflicted on children ? Sexuall or otherwise ?
by smiddy inthe sad truth in todays society is that religion gets an out of jail card on so many levels and i cant think of how this situation is ever going to change in the foreseeable future.. my main fear is that the few investigations going on is just to appease those clamouring for justice .. and the forces in control are just seen to be doing the right thing whereas nothing concrete except for some small token judgements will ever be executed.. call me a cynic but i doubt the arc will bring about much change at the end of the day.. remember they dont have much authority to do anything except advise..
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sparrowdown
I doubt we will ever see anything resembling adequate justice for any of WT's crimes against children the family and liberty.
It seems to me now that if a person manages to escape WT intact, without having suffered physical or sexual abuse or any lasting profound mental illness from the barrage of psychological abuse one is exposed to during their childhood and life as a dub, then, that person is one of the lucky ones.
Having said that, I believe with every fibre of my being that exposing the true nature of this cult is NOT a waste of time. It's important that current JW children don't get baptized, they don't go on to marry a JW and pass on the cult to the next gen and the general public can see through their honey trap website and recruiting methods.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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sparrowdown
Standard practise with cults is to demonize defectors. Anyone or anything outside the compound is bad and anyone who escapes the compound is worse - a traitor, a vile defector that has to be demonized in order to discourage others from questioning the leaders and the rules.
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Watchtower's unscriptual boasting about works
by Diogenesister innothing big here, just a little musing on this scripture at ephesians 2.8-9 that definately states that only faith saves, not works, in case men start to boast about their amazing works.
"8for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of god, 9not of works, that no one would boast.
well my word, i would definately say witnesses *do nothing but boast*, especially now on jw broadcast.
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sparrowdown
Lol @vidiot.
Or.
Jehovah...Governing Body...money...website... repeat.
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Beautiful new kingdom song
by slimboyfat inhas anyone noticed this new song?
i think it's absolutely beautiful.
it's got a film score quality about it, with depth and feeling.
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sparrowdown
Exactly Cofty!
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The average Witness will continue to follow Watchtower leadership whether right or wrong.
by UnshackleTheChains ini hate to say this, but given my own experience as a jw for almost 3 decades, i am beginning to believe the average jw will continue to look to and be guided by the gb regardless of whether they are right or wrong.. despite all the scandals and negative media attention the watchtower organisation is receiving, life seems to go on as normal in jw land.
it's truly bizarre!!.
clearly, the gbs tactic of mostly hiding away from the media is clearly working for them.
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sparrowdown
Maybe yes, maybe no. My thoughts are that people have woken up and have either left or are in the process of leaving and I think this slow trickle mutiny will continue, but, there will be those who will remain loyal to the mothership even as it changes into another format. -
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Beautiful new kingdom song
by slimboyfat inhas anyone noticed this new song?
i think it's absolutely beautiful.
it's got a film score quality about it, with depth and feeling.
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sparrowdown
How ironic that the people in the emotion milking montage of news footage will be lovingly destroyed by the singer's God at armaggeddon.
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The Internet is worse for the Watchtower than 1975 was: here's proof.
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am translating jwfacts to spanish.
i am doing the "statistics" section.here are two graphs that show that the statistics have never been worse for the watchtower:quantity of hours required for 1 baptism: note how low it went in 1974-1975, and note that 2016 is much higher than the slump of 1978... about double, to be exact.
2016 was a historical record in this statistic (higher is worse for watchtower).. this stat is the baptisms as a percentage of the publisher average.
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sparrowdown
I just mean that organized religion as we have known it as physical bricks and mortar buildings that people go to worship in, is dying in the arse. Internet religions, websites and you tube channels dedicated to popular religious leaders, sermons, dvds, books etc where you can get your daily dose of your fave preacher whenever and wherever you like is possibly the way of the future for religion, and I suspect WT has cottoned on to this.
Of course, I'm in no way attached to being right about this, I could be wrong, I'm just speculating.