Posts by sparrowdown

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2018 Special Talk Outline: “Who Really is Jesus Christ?”

by wifibandit in

revision date: 8/17.

the talk outline “jesus christ—earth’s new ruler” has been discontinued and should no longer be used.

it has been replaced by “who really is jesus christ?”note: this is the special public talk outline for 2018. the talk will be given in most congregations the week of monday, march 19, 2018.. .

sparrowdown

Who Really Is Jesus Christ?

That will be a short talk, now how would it sound if they were being truthful...

As we are Jehovah's Witness not Jesus Witnesses we don't give a shit about who Jesus is.

We only refer to the name if we really have to in special circumstances such as a hook to lure new converts to talks or to convince outsiders we are a Christian religion.

As Jehovah's people we much prefer Moses and Abraham and if we need a quote from the Christian Greek scriptures our go-to homeboy is Paul.

Paul spoke some excellent smack useful for cults today.

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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

by UnshackleTheChains in

well.....they showed that shunning video again.

you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

sparrowdown

It's a wonder there isn't a song to go along with that wondrous depiction of "Jehovah's love" brought to you by the religion of love, the words would be

Shun shun shun shun

Altogether now

Shun shun shun shun...

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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...

by pale.emperor in

i've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.

when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.

he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..

sparrowdown

Thanks for the explanation PE.

The thought of a whole congregation suffering from hypnosis induced tourettes syndrome all with different trigger words is hilarious.

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Make Your Excellent Point to a JW, But- Remember, it's a Mind Control Cult.

by OnTheWayOut in

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friends

so i am reading from many that they have an excellent thought-stopper for jw's.

(remember reasoning from the scriptures used "thought-stoppers?

)"if you just show them [this scripture or use this logic or expose this problem with the organization], you will shut them down.".

sparrowdown

I ran into a JW at the supermarket this morning and as she was coming towards me down the aisle she was doing the "I don't see you" thing they do (we were the only two people in the aisle walking towards each other).

As I reached the point where we were side by side I said "hi, how are you" to my surprise she responded strangely eagerly. I asked how her family was and she just started telling me how her husband has been suffering with bad depression and is struggling to get to meetings, he even missed the convention because he "couldn't face it."

She seemed close to tears as she was blurting all this out. I hadn't planned on saying anything re "the truth", doctrine or otherwise because it's like trying to reason with a zombie. I just let her talk herself out and thought to myself screw it these guys are hurting I 'm going to say something.

I told her that my own depression had eased considerably when "I took a break from the meetings it was like the messsage there wasn't good for my mental health."

She said "Oh that's not what's happening with my husband he still believes it's the truth."

Me: "You don't think the constant pressure to perform and reach out wouldn't be weighing on him?"

Her: " Yes he feels the pressure but the meetings don't cause those feelings they happen internally from inside the person."

Obviously in severe denial. I decide to let it slide and pivot the conversation away from him.

Me: "And how are you coping?"

Her: " It's so hard." Again, tears in her eyes.

Me: "It is ok to look after yourselves for a while you know. The meetings will still be there when you're both feeling better."

Her:" Oh we do miss you at the meetings we really do."

Me:" Oh thanks that's nice of you to say." (Never heard from them since I stopped going).

The store was beginning to get busy so I begged off at this point and I'm hoping she went home and thought about it. But at the end of it I felt I didn't need to say anymore than that. She wasn't even willing to acknowledge the "do more" message existed.

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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...

by pale.emperor in

i've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.

when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.

he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..

sparrowdown

Living in that dub environment of no life, no personal identity constant Jehovah this faithful slave that hypnotic broadcasts with spinning globes and droning voices I'm surprised the number of young people now claiming to be annointed isn't higher.

Hey PE just a slighly off topic thought but would it be posible to wake someone up from their cult indoctrination via hypnosis?

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Updates on the workload of Bethelites

by usualusername1 in

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friends

have the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?

how are they coping?.

paul.

sparrowdown

Maybe the great fruit heist thing was a final act of stick it to WT rebellion. WT is known for it's petty tyranny after all. A word to the wise though.The only fruit you should leave bethel with is your spiritual fruit. The first rule of fruit club is don't talk about fruitclub.

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Updates on the workload of Bethelites

by usualusername1 in

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friends

have the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?

how are they coping?.

paul.

sparrowdown

Seems bizarre to be talking about how grown-ass, able-bodied people are "coping" with (oh the horror!) cooking their own meals and doing their own washing?

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Watchtower Films

by vienne in

probably everyone here knows something about the photo drama of creation.

but i wonder how many know anything about other early watch tower films.. https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if anyone knows where we can find the cedar point films, please let me know.

sparrowdown

"truth" history? Oh the irony.

culthistory more like.

Correction: cultpropaganda.

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Will Watchtower target the inactive?

by ToesUp in

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if watchtower has no reason to df ones.

they have just become inactive.

do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?

sparrowdown

Vienne - the numbers of hours is reported amd counted just like meeting attendance.

Inactive = less overall hours reported, less meeting attendance figures, less RVs.

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Thinking about the end of the Watchtower

by JeffT in

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first, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.

the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.

we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

sparrowdown

Strangely and sadly if WT collapsed I think many JWs would still refuse to believe that WT is anything other than poor pure persecuted Christ's brothers and continue to pray for them and live as JWs.

Those that are left with the WT security rug pulled out from under them will have to figure it out just like any of the millions of people worldwide leftover from controlling regimes that fell suddenly had to cope and figure it out.

The German people who were in support of Hilter had to figure it out. People are resilient.

That's life.Things change.