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  Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

  by rulehayl in

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  2. friends

  hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

  my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

  she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

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  sparrowdown

  Why did you come here for advice?
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  question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw

  by poopie in

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  would he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.

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  Not to mention the chick with the luxury oil, foot and hair fetish. DFing offense right there!

  Can you imagine the JC.

  "Now Jesus did she touch your whole foot? What about the piggies did she touch all five? Was the oil warm? Was her hair long and luxurious? Did you encourage her? Did you enjoy it?
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  Gradualism for the blood doctrine?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here in australia, during the service meeting this week, the local needs part was taken up to quickly discuss a letter from the organization stating that there will no longer be a annual meeting part to discuss or remind the congregations about their blood cards.. i found this quite odd.. its not like that there is a shortage of meeting time to discuss this issue, as the society has recently been hijacking more and more local needs parts for its own messages.

  and for a supposedly important doctrine, you would think that it should be mentioned more often rather than less, to keep everyone in line.. could this be a beginning of the movement away from the blood doctrine, through the process of gradualism?.

  no-zombie .

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  I doubt the doctrine will be dropped they just won't have a formal dedicated meeting part about it anymore. Makes sense really considering the litigous climate they now find themselves in.
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  Louise Palmer: British Parliament to bring up the two witness rule

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  fantastic news!

  louise palmer, the lass recently interviewed by a major british newspaper and a csa survivor, has tweeted the following:.

  what a busy couple of days!

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  sparrowdown

  Terminal decline sounds good to me.
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  Let J.W.'s keep their "two-witnesses" rule..................

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. beliefs

  ................for all their sinners - but make it mandatory that all j.w.

  alleged criminals are promptly reported to the relevant authorities.

  problem solved.

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  Witness pedantics and hair-splitting may prevent them from investigting allegations but that's why we have police so citizens don't have to.
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  Gradualism for the blood doctrine?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here in australia, during the service meeting this week, the local needs part was taken up to quickly discuss a letter from the organization stating that there will no longer be a annual meeting part to discuss or remind the congregations about their blood cards.. i found this quite odd.. its not like that there is a shortage of meeting time to discuss this issue, as the society has recently been hijacking more and more local needs parts for its own messages.

  and for a supposedly important doctrine, you would think that it should be mentioned more often rather than less, to keep everyone in line.. could this be a beginning of the movement away from the blood doctrine, through the process of gradualism?.

  no-zombie .

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  Hmm just thinking outloud here but could it be the ridiculous "bunker" scenario presented a couple years back was a metaphorical "bunker." Information lockdown? The borg is removing coercive language, pruning controversial subjects from KH discussion that could be recorded and used in evidence while the policy itself still exists in by implication?

  Essentially the borg going "underground." After all we all know how good WT is at saying something without saying something, getting the intended message across without using hard directives.
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  Gradualism for the blood doctrine?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here in australia, during the service meeting this week, the local needs part was taken up to quickly discuss a letter from the organization stating that there will no longer be a annual meeting part to discuss or remind the congregations about their blood cards.. i found this quite odd.. its not like that there is a shortage of meeting time to discuss this issue, as the society has recently been hijacking more and more local needs parts for its own messages.

  and for a supposedly important doctrine, you would think that it should be mentioned more often rather than less, to keep everyone in line.. could this be a beginning of the movement away from the blood doctrine, through the process of gradualism?.

  no-zombie .

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  What freddo said - cleaning house, ass covering.
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  It's hard being bisexual and being a jw

  by Sally fields in

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  i've been bi for a long time but i know it's wrong if you want to be a jw... .

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  Sexual preference aside, do you actually want to be a JW?
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  I yelled at a Dub today!

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  i was walking out of the store and i passed a former jw associate of 20+ years.

  "keith"he was an elder, got df'd, lost his wife, got reinstated and last i heard started pioneering!so i see him as i'm walking to my parking spot.. i stop, look him straight in the face and yell from 20 feet away, "you're in a cult.

  you're in a cult, dude!".

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  Yes Kairos, keep going. Recovery is an ongoing process how you feel today may not be how you feel tomorrow and running into old friends is a trigger but if you keep moving forward there will come a day when you don't have to waste anymore emotional energy over these indoctrinated zombies.
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  Yes please define consciousness in the context of this thread and dummies like me.

  I assume Not talking about:

  Level of consciousness from a medical POV which can be observed and tested.

  Consciousness as in "I know I'am alive."

  Deeper psychological/philosophical consciousness as in insight, understanding and awareness as to the true nature of one's own thoughts, feelings, behaviors and reality.

  Is something that is "programmed" conscious?

  What about stem cells for instance are they "conscious"?

  What about water? A tree? A rock or a pet rock?

  All very interesting guys.