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  Praying in the name of Michael the archangel instead of Jesus

  by krismalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondering what would happen if a brother saying a prayer in a meeting did it in the name of michael the archangel instead of closing the prayer with "jesus christ".

  since jw's believe michael is jesus would he be counseled?

  what if a brother used the name michael the archangel in their public talks instead of jesus?

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  sparrowdown

  The JWborg have perfected thought/word policing to an art form.

  Their org their rules.
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  Praying in the name of Michael the archangel instead of Jesus

  by krismalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondering what would happen if a brother saying a prayer in a meeting did it in the name of michael the archangel instead of closing the prayer with "jesus christ".

  since jw's believe michael is jesus would he be counseled?

  what if a brother used the name michael the archangel in their public talks instead of jesus?

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  sparrowdown

  Apply the same question to the "model" prayer that starts with "Our Father..." why can't JWs just pray to "father"?
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  Eulogies

  by redundantcartworker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently attended a non jw funeral at a local church.

  during the service, a couple of friends/relatives of the deceased eloquently spoke for a few minutes about the deceased with some of their fond memories and gave heartfelt, respectful tributes.. would i ( a non jw) be given a few minutes to speak at either of my jw parents funerals at the kingdom hall ?.

  i guess i already know the answer, but if the answer is "no", then why not and how would they hide the heartlessness of refusing ?

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  Hell yeah bennyk. Jesus was undignified all over the damn place. Him with his bitches and his tax collector buddies and overturning the money tables in the temple and shit. Whooo that boy was indignified af. Lol.
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  Wives With Unbelieving Mates

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i knew many witness wives with unbelieving mates who pretty much led a double life.

  “my husband says i have to go the workplace christmas party.” or my mate tells me i have to make a thanksgiving dinnner.

  or “ my mate insists i do things in the bedroom that i know the watchtower has talked against.

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  If you have no qualms about being JW at the meeting and "worldy" at home with your "worldly" spouse then why the heck would you want to or even need to be a jw at all?! God, religion is stupid.
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  Eulogies

  by redundantcartworker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently attended a non jw funeral at a local church.

  during the service, a couple of friends/relatives of the deceased eloquently spoke for a few minutes about the deceased with some of their fond memories and gave heartfelt, respectful tributes.. would i ( a non jw) be given a few minutes to speak at either of my jw parents funerals at the kingdom hall ?.

  i guess i already know the answer, but if the answer is "no", then why not and how would they hide the heartlessness of refusing ?

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  sparrowdown

  "...we had the kingdom hope and were to be 'dignified'..."

  Which is why I hate that word now. It's a shut down word, a silencing word, a feeling-shaming word. A word meant to shame someone into shutting up.

  "Dignified" in JWspeak meant : you are not allowed unapproved and unchecked thoughts, feelings and words.

  In ex-jw speak it means : you should never ever ever offend or "attack" the delicate snowflake JW with regular human questions and words.

  Now, I prefer to leave the controlling of other people's thoughts words and emotions to groups like WT and maybe SJWs.
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  Rolf Furuli Mental Health

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  rolf foruli, scandinavian academic and watchtower apologist, has come out with a video at times quoting figures on mental disease from the 1930's and 40's, in support of his allegation that the rate of mental problems and depression is actually only a third of what it is among the entire population.. there are numerous holes in his presentation.

  for one, when jw's are da'ed or df'ed they're no longer considered jw's and only active jw's are part of the results.

  those who were victimized and suffered the most mental trauma as jw's aren't even considered in the studies he mentions.. watch his video: "the mental health of jehovah´s witnesses" r. furuli, on youtube:.

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  sparrowdown

  WT does it's own peer review it's called the writing committee.
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  PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  based on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.

  the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.

  the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.

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  sparrowdown

  Shame on WT for having a "rule" that you must shun disfellowshipped family or face shunning or disfellowshipping yourself. Shame on parents that comply.

  DFed or DAed may not have a choice if they are shunned by others as you cannot force someone to acknowledge, greet or show common decency towards you, but, JWs do have a choice whether they shun or not. It might not be an easy choice and there will be consequences but it is still a choice.

  Anyone who chooses to stand up and do the right thing will face the consequences of disapproval by others who don't like it.
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  Rolf Furuli Mental Health

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  rolf foruli, scandinavian academic and watchtower apologist, has come out with a video at times quoting figures on mental disease from the 1930's and 40's, in support of his allegation that the rate of mental problems and depression is actually only a third of what it is among the entire population.. there are numerous holes in his presentation.

  for one, when jw's are da'ed or df'ed they're no longer considered jw's and only active jw's are part of the results.

  those who were victimized and suffered the most mental trauma as jw's aren't even considered in the studies he mentions.. watch his video: "the mental health of jehovah´s witnesses" r. furuli, on youtube:.

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  sparrowdown

  WT gets away with it because no one big, famous and with credentials calls them on it.
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  Rolf Furuli Mental Health

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  rolf foruli, scandinavian academic and watchtower apologist, has come out with a video at times quoting figures on mental disease from the 1930's and 40's, in support of his allegation that the rate of mental problems and depression is actually only a third of what it is among the entire population.. there are numerous holes in his presentation.

  for one, when jw's are da'ed or df'ed they're no longer considered jw's and only active jw's are part of the results.

  those who were victimized and suffered the most mental trauma as jw's aren't even considered in the studies he mentions.. watch his video: "the mental health of jehovah´s witnesses" r. furuli, on youtube:.

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  sparrowdown

  What else would WT be doing with all that falsified, trumped up, psuedo data gathered by unqualified fools from people who don't know they are being surveyed except use it to their advantage?
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  The book burning has started

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  don't know if this is a global thing but i've just been told by a pimo member of my old congregation that a min servant has been given the task of destroying all old books/literature in the kh library prior to 1992.. could be the elders (or even one of them) on a mission to stamp out dissent as my ex-wife used the same reasoning to her elder dad that i used in my jc: rutherfords books containing failed predictions.. anyone else heared anything?.

  the ms who's been given the task is a company man.

  no hope of him keeping them or selling them on ebay.. they have some russell books in that library too.

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  sparrowdown

  They can destroy the KH books all they want but copies are out there in thrift stores, on ebay and apostate bookshelves everywhere. Images on google show they existed and exist. Everybook they ever published is at Warwick are they going to destroy the ones at Warwick also?

  If...if, they are still sending out destroy old books directives this is just so ordinary JWs don't have access to them. Out of sight out of mind.