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  Cart witnessing at the Toyota Grand Prix

  by Dagney in

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  picture 185,000 people on the streets attending the biggest event in long beach.

  there is a main downtown street which is the only way into the grand prix.

  it’s chaos because it is not private property that can be contained; these are working boulevards with cars and people vying to get where they want to go.

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  It's just about being seen.
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  It's more who will they share the info with and who else could have access to it. Personal information sharing is valuable to all sorts of groups it's big business these days.

  The personal dirt/stuff would be useful to their lawyers and legal department if a member or former member turns whistle blower, makes allegations and embarks on some course of legal action as an individual or as a class action.
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  2018-Message From Watchtower Informant!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one of our informants inside the watchtower.

  (same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.

  ) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.

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  Any hard information they have is stuff personally handed over such as name, address, cong, year of baptism, publisher status inactive irregular, restrictions, reproved etc, marital status, publisher history, previous congs, possibly job details, blood card information, reason for DS DA etc, etc.

  Any other information would be personal opinions and extrapolations of your situation or personality formed by the elders whether true or not or anything the boe felt was noteworthy and relevant to your spiritualy such as menatl health issues, sexual preference or personal struggles maybe with smoking, porn etc.
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  Why do Jehovah's Witnesses always answer questions through the bible?

  by MarieChii in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi.. recently i've been researching jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs and found out that they don't believe in blood transfusions.

  so, i've asked one of my friends who is a jw as to what is the reason for this, and so far, they had always directed me to a bible verse that is in their bible.. clearly, i wasn't getting anywhere and so far, it's pretty much frustrating to even make my friend give me reasonable reason.

  when i was getting somewhere, even a smidgen, they would answer with a question.

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  Jehovahs witnesses don't actually answer intelligently with the bible.

  Fact: JWs parrot cherry-picked scriptures and regurgitate cult propoganda. There's not a scripture they quote that isn't out of context and misapplied, sadly they are just too brainwashed to know it.
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  2018-04-11-E-BOE--Speaker's Monitor!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  2018-04-11-e-boespeaker's monitorhttps://we.tl/em7bxi5o4oatlantis!.

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  What does it say?
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  Example of sensitive data – should I be worried?

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ### here's a link to a high-quality version of the above form: https://1drv.ms/u/s!amcrvjcxi6m6a2mdhysjdll3m00 ###.

  the attached image is the rear of form a-27; this is just example of many forms that contain personal data.

  i’d like to know: should i be worried?.

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  * morpheous - employers want to know what you watch and listen to in your freetime and if you're chaste?

  + JWs are not employees and do not get paid.
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  Dating as a Jehovahs witness has made me PIMO

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey, i would like to share my experience, it is kind of long but i really appreciate whoever reads.

  last year i was a devout pioneer sister.

  well, i am naturally an imperfect 20 year old women.

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  Try to gently nudge your boyfriend awake if you want but honestly just make your plans to fade it won't get any better married to PIMI JW. You have your whole life ahead of you don't waste it playing this cult's culty games.
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  Example of sensitive data – should I be worried?

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ### here's a link to a high-quality version of the above form: https://1drv.ms/u/s!amcrvjcxi6m6a2mdhysjdll3m00 ###.

  the attached image is the rear of form a-27; this is just example of many forms that contain personal data.

  i’d like to know: should i be worried?.

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  This is sensitive info could you imagine an employer wanting to know and store this stuff on you?

  Thing is elders have been talking amongst themselves and taking these notes on people's personal lives for years especially if that person ever reached out, or got in trouble, only now it will go onto a database rather than a old school notebook.
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  New data movement this is what I see as their goals .

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.

  first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.

  what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.

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  Congs of 120 with 60 attending? A very common report.

  I have suspect the discrepancy lies between the "gross" (if I can call it that) amount of publishers in the area regardless of status and the "net" figure of actual publishing publishers is the reality refected in the attendance figures.

  With all figures and personal info on computer just imagine the magic numbers they'll be able to produce and use to their advantage. Very facebook of them.
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  Christ's sacrifice

  by dogisgod in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

  i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

  no one believed it literally.

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  The simple concept of sacrificing one to save many that most christians have is not that difficult to grasp if you look at it like a religio/philosphical 'trollycar dilemma" kind of thing but this particluar understanding of a 'ransom" JWs have I always found to be even more convoluted, confusing and problematic.

  It opens up a whole heap of other logical questions like who pays the "ransom" to who etc. If the ransom has been paid once and for all time doesn't that mean everyone is atomatically saved? If not why is there other "payments" on top of the "ransom" in the form of obedience to a modern corp/org? If the ransom was paid in full why is there other payments on top of the "ransom" like preaching and meeting attendance etc? I could go on as I had years of boring meetings to sit through and mull over this crap.

  But, surfice to say it sounds more like a perpetual hire purchase scheme to me aka extortion and a perfect excuse for control.