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  No new releases? How are the r&f taking this?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  is it true that there's been no new releases at this summer's convention?

  if so it will be the first convention in decades perhaps ever to not produce at least a new tract.. how are the r&f explaining this to eachother?

  surely they must have noticed the absence?

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  sparrowdown

  With all the razzamataz of being at the WT movies all day I'd say they don't care - conventions have that effect on people.

  Also on the upside no more crappy books to find storage for at home yaaaaaaay.
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  Sex Offenders and Children Generally

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  is there a change in the way child sex offenders are being perceived?

  this article is from the telegraph newspaper.

  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/8201521/sex-offenders-including-paedophiles-should-be-allowed-to-adopt-theresa-may-told.html.

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  I heard an interview with a detective that was head of an undercover sting operations within the police force catching pedophiles and according to him the police and the perps viewed it as a preference.

  He said when queried by the interviewer "for the majority of the people we deal with this is not an illness it's a preference."

  Scary stuff.
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  Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.

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  Strangely what waton said is the premis of the movie Idiocracy.

  Educated couples waiting too long to start a family or choosing not to have children at all meant the poor and uneducated were the only ones breeding which eventually leads to a dystopian future world populated by the seriously vacuous and stupid.

  It's a comedy of course and the issues it raises although absurdly reduced for comedic entertainment are intruguing complex modern issues.
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  Do Circuit Overseers outrank Elders? Why can't they talk to disfellowshipped people?

  by garyneal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last sunday, our family went to the kingdom hall and i realized that this was the week that the circuit overseer was in town.

  when we sat down, i noticed he came over and talked to her then he walked away i guess to talk to others.

  a few minutes later, he returned to tell her that he could not talk to her because he was informed that she was disfelloshipped.

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  Why would you go when you are treated like that?
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  Nowadays How Does One Become An Elder?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was appointed jan 1 1980 and back then it was a big deal to“qualify”.

  i was the youngest elder appointed in the district!

  i actually studied everything from the societies publications and listened to anything i was told to do.

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  I agree with you, asp59.
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  Why are JDubs scared to death of apostate websites?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was an elder back in the 1970's i loved to debate and challenge ministers, preachers, and holy rollers.

  now you can be a loyal jdub fully indoctrinated for 30 years but just take a peek at an apostate website and you are doomed.

  yes, satan now has you by the gonads and all of the years of being at the meetings, all of the family worship nights, all of the conventions, and all of the personal study just go up in a cloud of smoke.

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  Because they believe in their mind prison their god "Jehovah" will kill them to death for visiting apostate websites.

  At the very least fear some other dub will find out and they'll be de-effed and become "dead" to all their family and friends.
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  Nowadays How Does One Become An Elder?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was appointed jan 1 1980 and back then it was a big deal to“qualify”.

  i was the youngest elder appointed in the district!

  i actually studied everything from the societies publications and listened to anything i was told to do.

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  I think elders will become glorified ushers and button pushers eventually anyway.

  There only to guide you to your seat, dim the lights and push play at the video screenings.
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  Proof that naughty watchtower does watch apostate videos

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/f_wvcvooxlo.

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  Interesting, thanks for that joe134cd.

  I have absolutely no doubt WT is monitoring everything apostates are saying.

  Why wouldn't they it's free market research if nothing else.
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  The Repression and Expression of Anger Among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by john.prestor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something which i always found surprising when i attended the kingdom halls i studied was how angry, even vicious, many jehovah's witnesses could become when a watchtower study featured some persons and/or institutions the organization disapproved of, say, higher education and educators, christendom and its clergy, apostates, etc.

  many seemed to sadistically enjoy denigrating these persons or institutions when the watchtower study conductor called on them and they were handed a microphone.

  i wondered for a long time where this anger came from, and i've developed a hypothesis for explaining this.. according to a book i'm reading by alice miller called "for your own good: hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence," children who are strictly controlled and abused (whether emotionally or physically) typically go on to unleash the anger they inevitably felt at their parents, but were never allowed to express, at their children or those around them.

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  I found being a JW a shameful experience on many levels. Shame in the congregation shame from the "world" and shame will often translate into rage or passive aggression.

  There are teeth behind every JW fake smile, for sure.
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  The Latest Thing Waking People Up...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.

  also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.

  active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.

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  Yeah, that's the trouble when you train the critical thinking and initiative out of people eventually they become useless to you.

  In the past scare tactics worked but I don't think the FOG is as effective anymore, for fear obligation guilt to work the person needs to be even a little conscientious.

  The only other option after scare tactics and rhetoric would be to lower the bar.