Which bethel?
Who's Stuart Anderson ?
Are they shredding docs pertaining to shunning?
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my sources tell me that it's time to pull out paper shredder
by poopie inat bethel.
they have dug themselves deep in hole they are shreddin documents little by little so stuart anderson cannot get his hands on documents that would cause them to open those wallets the shunning policy is being questioned so much
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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CEDARS (Again) Is it really about religious beliefs?
by Listener injohn cedars has posted his latest blog "the trouble with apostates (and why it shouldn't put you off becoming one)".
i acknowledge that he is entitled to his opionin just as we are ours but i am disappointed in some of his comments.. at this stage i'll try to be objective about it.
he is defending his own position after all.. what bothers me most is his comments about athiests and christians which he seems to identify as being in conflict with each other.
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Is taking oneself too seriously a hangover symptom of being in a cult?
Inside the cult, intolerance was taught and encouraged.
Judgemental attitudes abounded in the congregation, yet because JWs are all "polite christians" they rarely told you their problem to your face they gossiped behind your back and plotted your downfall with some elder or elderette they had in their pocket.
It's no surprise to me that some ex-dubs are extra sensitive to criticism and all questions can be percieved as a form of attack.
Put those things together and you end up with some very self-absorbed, know-it-all, paranoids. I 'm sure there are plenty who would enjoy watching the downfall of JC and there are plenty of sycophants who worship the ground he walks on.
Like most things in life the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Hopefully the more time spent around "normies" (normal, regular people who weren't raised in a doomsday cult) the more balanced one becomes.
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Impact of the Royal Commission of Inquiry on JW policies and procedures
by steve2 inthe royal commission is not yet over.
the summary of findings on jws is not the end of the story.
the legal process is unfolding and the only open question is the extent to which jw organization in australia will be legally mandated to change its policies and procedures on child sexual abuse.. (on the question of shunning those who leave, the commission is well intended but has strayed beyond its legal brief.
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Girlnextdoor -Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm not saying the RC is a toothless tiger, but that possibly someone in WT heirarchy would arrogantly deem it to be and therefore not to be taken too seriously. Hypothetical reason for their un-preparedness??? -
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Impact of the Royal Commission of Inquiry on JW policies and procedures
by steve2 inthe royal commission is not yet over.
the summary of findings on jws is not the end of the story.
the legal process is unfolding and the only open question is the extent to which jw organization in australia will be legally mandated to change its policies and procedures on child sexual abuse.. (on the question of shunning those who leave, the commission is well intended but has strayed beyond its legal brief.
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The WT did appear rather ill-prepared which I put down to several possible rationales/scenarios.
* This was a deliberate strategy from the higher ups at HQ to cause the brothers at Australia Branch to appear feckless to the extreme. Which wasn't difficult because even brothers with positions at a relatively large branch are feckless to the extreme. Ignorant and out of the GB loop, cannon fodder at best.
* Once fecklessness has been established, and it was...oh it was. The GB have their heads on a plate to serve up to the media or the gov or whoever else is demanding for a few heads to roll. They can say the Aus Branch f...ed up, they didn't know what they were doing, but we will "fire" all the incompetents and "clean house" in the spirit of cooperation.
* Someone, somewhere in the Head Honcho dep at HQ would have reseached the RC and deemed it to be a toothless tiger, so therefore nothing to worry about.
*They have already inplemented some clever jiggery-pokery with changing the name of the TMS and dropping the bookstudy in private homes and will continue to rearrange the wording/phrasing of key passages in future literature and correspondence and present this as evidence of change - if asked to provide it.
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Sometimes I think Jehovah's Witnesses overuse the word "historic"
by slimboyfat inat the beginning of the may broadcast stephen lett said this was a historic broadcast.
he explained that every member of the governing body had hosted a show and they were starting over again.
that was all the explanation he gave.
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Just put on ARC website: submissions of senior counsel
by Tornintwo inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=359d7249-0d4f-4c51-9265-1c40aa6b3b21&type=transcriptpdf&filename=submissions-of-senior-counsel-assisting-the-royal-commission&fileextension=pdf.
just having a quick read through, the findings are damning.
mr toole is being reported to the law society of australia.... a few highlights so far:.
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Sometimes I think Jehovah's Witnesses overuse the word "historic"
by slimboyfat inat the beginning of the may broadcast stephen lett said this was a historic broadcast.
he explained that every member of the governing body had hosted a show and they were starting over again.
that was all the explanation he gave.
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Yeah, "historic" as in WT trumpet blast kind of "historic" also known as delusions of grandeur.
In years to come "Grumpy Cat" will be considered more "historic" than any WT announcement or event.
The WT doesn't get to decide what events are "historic" history does!
They overuse the word "truth" as well.
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What happened with Dr. Applewhite's supplementary report? Mistery solved
by Viva la Vida in542 on 16 august 2015, dr applewhite wrote to the legal representative of watchtower.
australia and advised that she was unable to prepare a supplementary statement due.
to other commitments.
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Poor Dr Applewhite. The life of an "expert for hire" must be a tough one.😢💰😢💰😢💰.....cue violin.
All that selling out and deals with the devil, very tiring indeed.
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JW sisters reaction to the cutbacks
by umbertoecho ini had gone away for a rest and came back to pick my animals up.
(yes we share one common thing.
the love of animals).
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I think WT operations will become such, that eventually everything can be controlled remotely from the US or maybe some secret undisclosed location. We all know how paranoid they are, couple that with the fact that now they actually have reason to believe people/victims/lawyers are in fact out to get them and I can see them making strategic withdrawals all over the globe.