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  Watch Tower is NOT Parasitic

  by berrygerry in

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  2. beliefs

  i was pondering about how parasitic watch tower was and looked it up on wiki:.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/parasitism.

  interestingly, watch tower is not parasitic, as a parasite does not destroy its host - the host sustains the parasite.. instead watch tower is a parasitoid, which "unlike a true parasite, however, it ultimately sterilizes or kills, and sometimes consumes, the host.".

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  sparrowdown

  I wouldn't see individual JWs as the host they are a tiny cell of the host organism but not the whole. The host in WT's case is JWs as a group where individual members over time join and leave, die and are born just as old cells die new ones take their place but the body as a whole remains .

  They even tell it's members that with the promise "Jehovah promises to protect his people as a group."

  I prefer to think of WT as vampires sucking out the lifeblood or energy of it's captive victims in the form of using up their physical, emotional and monetary energy in order to stay alive.

  If you let them, these energy vampires they will suck you dry and then move on to a new victim.
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  How do we know JWs are wrong and how do we convince others JWs are wrong: logic versus persuasion

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we like to think we are logical and have good reasons for for our beliefs.

  no more so than when it comes to our reasons for rejecting the truth claims of jws.

  we reject their version of history, such as the date of the fall of jerusalem, because it doesn't agree with the historical evidence.

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  sparrowdown

  I think for many of the people who remain in this group their reasons for doing so are mainly social.

  The pressure to conform, the desire to be accepted and approved of by the group etc - all natural desires which WT is happy to exploit. For those people they stay for social reasons and they leave for social reasons.

  When things are going fine socially they can overlook any mistake or gaps in logic presented by WT. Then, when something very painful happens or maybe a succession of painful events that causes their "faith" to shatter they start to question the things they were previously only too happy to ignore and they are no longer able to cut WT the slack it needs to keep the lies going. If someone acts on these feelings of "someting is not right here" and starts to research WT for themselves that's when true awakening can occur.

  In my experience with trying to prove, convince or persuade others truth cannot be told it can only be realized. This point you alluded to in your post and for that reason if I see a JW now and cannot avoid chatting with them I talk about anything and everything but the"truth." Far more effective for them to see me happy and well adjusted.
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  Craziest meeting in last 10 years let's compare

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  hi guys ,i'm new here 27 in 1 year out.. ive escaped 2 judicially by changing congs in rapid escape .i will tell my last dodged bullet.i swear these word as gospel honest.6 years ago in oz i'm in cong only about a year and tensions were running high due to a crazy old european bro ex elder who took no shit from the 10 apostles.i like him i don't know if it was the rebel in me or underdog syndrome but good guy 74years old he was.we just had this big sense the razor were getting sharpened.we arrive at thursday's night meeting my wife was at home so another big boring night i thought,was i wrong.the body has every mongrel breed.the three main characters were the italian dutch german,service committee.we start with song prayer ,the dutchy get up and says we are making adjustments to meeting tonight the arrogant bastard says only bible reading tonight then there agender.dutchy says.what is most amazing is these 10 idiots agreed to this changing of meeting program.

  (these words are true)"we have a korah influence in cong and the 10 apostles have established an open judicial committee,the elders said there was evil in our mist .so to root out the evil if anyone has heard a bro say anything against any elders recently the are to report to the three stooges.well dutchy dims light and play the old prehistoric korah movie to the cong ,the bloody creation movie by russell was higher quality.

  30 mins later german takes to the stage for the circus to begin.he repeats the dutch mantra ,well the publishers were looking at each other like it was north korea ,could have heard a pin drop,we are all thinking to ourselves we are all guilty of bitchin about the bastards .before meeting had finished halfway thru movie i rang my mate to tell him about "the burning "as the meeting became affectionately known.get home tell wife she don't believe me,within 2 days she believed.it was the talk of area.i had never rang bethel previously because i believed it was heaven and it didn't need my voice.next morning ring service desk in sydney and all i said i was concerned what took place at meeting last night .

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  Welcome Chooky, it feels good to unload doesn't it, albeit slightly incoherently, that WT poison is better out than in.
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  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

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  Didn't they introduce a few years ago that you could request a "personal territory map" that you could work on your own at your convenience? I remember that arrangement being very popular in our cong.
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  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

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  Any sane person would not want a child molester coming to their house whether someone else was with them or not.

  The other point to remember is the other witness would not know the person they are working with is a pedophile. They could have their child with them or in the car group whilst going door to door with Brother child molester!
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  NEWS 5 INVESTIGATES: Sex offender going door-to-door

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.koaa.com/story/32799137/news-5-investigates-sex-offender-going-door-to-door.

  by carlos vergara, investigative reporter.

  colorado springs -66 year old waymon ivery is re-living a nightmare that happened more than two decades ago.

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  The article towards the end states "Jehovah's witness policy is that they never approach a home and knock unless there are at least two people."

  B and S - I know plenty of brothers and sisters that go alone on their BSs, RVs and door to door all the time in fact many prefer it - I know I did too towards the end, it was just easier than trying to make arrangements with others. And what about the odd person out at the end of a field service group??
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Propaganda & Hypocrisy Video

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  i didn't make this video it just showed up in my utube web page, god i love utube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyv5lg1uh0o.

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  sparrowdown

  Excellent video exposing the hypocrisy of the borg. I love this guy's videos he's so funny.
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  Just a reminder about voting

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  there appear to be some people who are of the mistaken opinion that endlessly clicking the like or dislike button 20x will mean 20x votes.. it doesn't !!!.

  only one vote is ever counted.

  1 user, 1 vote, each post.

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  sparrowdown

  In the spirit of the "hottest" posts list we have now what about a "hot" button option beside the like dislike buttons?
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  Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

  suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

  james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

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  sparrowdown

  They bought it from christendom and sell it back to christendom it's known as the revolving door of God's real estate business.
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  Just a reminder about voting

  by Simon in

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  there appear to be some people who are of the mistaken opinion that endlessly clicking the like or dislike button 20x will mean 20x votes.. it doesn't !!!.

  only one vote is ever counted.

  1 user, 1 vote, each post.

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  sparrowdown

  Is all this like/dislike shaming really necessary. Humans and monkeys see buttons and they have an irrestible urge to keep pushing them it's as simple as that. You bad bad naughty boys and girls big brother is watching YOU.

  Though to be fair I'm sure there must be like/dislike "bombers" that come here just so they can keep pushing those buttons all day long for evil purposes. To you lot.. just ...just....stop it already!