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  Starting To Wake Up

  by Searching in

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  2. experiences

  i suppose after lurking around for a few weeks i thought i might share my own personal story, as i think it would probably be a very freeing experience for me right now.

  to start off, at 23 years old i'm actually a third-generation jw, my grandparents were baptized (my grandfather is actually an elder) when my mother was only a toddler, she was raised as a witness, then of course, married a witness and thus myself and my two brothers were born-in's.

  growing up my mother was always very careful about what she taught me, all the good things for sure, about how we would live in a paradise earth and i could pet all the animals that i wanted and not worry about growing old, and she'd ask me who in the bible i'd love to see and talk with - my grandparents however, were a different story and the cause of i think, most of my childhood trauma.. they really drilled home the fact that we were the only people who were going to be saved, we were the only people that were going to survive and that everyone else was going to die horribly - that i shouldn't try to make that many friends in school because they would never be "real" friends unless they were fellow jw's and they would die anyway.

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  Good for you, it's good to think critically about these things.

  The rabbit hole is deep and there is much to research, this is an exciting time to wake up you'll be so glad you did.
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  Lott video and " Vanity" of modern JW women

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. entertainment

  one thing i picked up from the " remember the wife of lott" video was the amount of time the jw women gave over to improving their looks.. in days of old i doubt a jw wife would have been portrayed in a salon having a lot of beauty treatments .. that's not to say it would be looked down on, per sa, i just doubt it would have been portrayed on official propaganda videos as an acceptable way for jw women to spend time that could be otherwise given over to promoting " kingdom interests".

  given the way the org uses anything to belittle women i'm surprised they let those scenes fly without negative comment.. just a minor point ....i know the vids have been done to death by now!!

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  Witnesses are amongst the most image obsessed people I have ever met. The sisters act like hollywood starlets, especially at conventions, I remember the little girls dressed up bridesmaids it's all so absurd.

  What this cult does to people is sad and infuriating because they create this appearance obsessed environment then counsel people for being appearance obsessed! The men are just as obsessed too btw.
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  Connection between shunning and Alzheimer's

  by poopie in

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  another reason to stop social isolation..

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  sparrowdown

  Stretching much maybe?
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  Unsure - Has it ever occurred to you that if the Jesus story is true then Jesus already died for you, me and everyone, the "price" has been paid, you don't need to be saved you already are and always have been. Religion sells conditional "salvation" because they want to keep you donating money and being enslaved to them.
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  Russell's Pyramidology Originated In Edinburgh Scotland

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .

  the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).

  smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.

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  Very glad for this op as I 'm so sick of people who insist on perpetuating the idea that the pyamid monument near Russell's gravestone has nothing to do with WT or Russell - ha piffell!
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  Russell's Pyramidology Originated In Edinburgh Scotland

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .

  the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).

  smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.

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  sparrowdown

  The pyramid monument near Russells tombstone coincidently has watchtower bible and tract society on it? Russell believed and taught the same pyramid calculation theory but the pyramid has nothing to do with Russell?

  I'm so confused 😮.

  
  
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  If you are looking for absolute verifiable facts about Jesus and so called "salvation" you won't find them - anywhere.

  That means everything on this subject is opinion. So what's your opinion, unsure, what are the other ways that one can be "saved"? Also define "saved" if you don't mind, as it means different things to different people.
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  sparrowdown

  Ok, let me ask another way do you want others to tell you what to believe about Jesus?

  I have asked if you want your answer to be fact or opinion?

  I'll ask again do what do you want facts or personal opinion?

  How can I answer your question if I don't know what kind of answer you are looking for?
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  Russell's Pyramidology Originated In Edinburgh Scotland

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .

  the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).

  smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.

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  Wow great find!

  I always felt Russell cobbled together some kind of Franken-religion.
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  Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

  by unsure in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

  i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

  i was born in.

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  sparrowdown

  Why would ex-jws know more about Jesus than anyone else like say bible scholars or theologians? Are you wanting the absolute provable facts about the bible character of Jesus (good luck with that) or are you just wanting opinions as to what feels good for each individual?