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  Humourous reasons to go back

  by usualusername1 in

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  in my stand up comedy routine tonight i want to list humourous reasons why i shd go back to jws.. how about nobody throws parties like jws.. how about jws being at the cutting edge of fashion.. how about it being easier for men to get a date.. any ideas?.

  paul.

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  sparrowdown

  Because being a JW is like living in a sado-masochist's paradise, minus the leather.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  sparrowdown

  Literally everything? Really? Think about it. How many JWs have you known that have actually given up everything, their homes, their car, their belongings, their job, and left their spouse?

  Bethelites and missionaries possibly? Which is a very tiny percentage of the number of overall JWs.

  I have known converts that given up a hell of a lot but not literally everything.

  This is guilt inducing WT rhetoric to make conscientious people think they haven't given up enough and thus keep them perpetually guilty.

  AS I SAID on the previous page it's talking about giving up everything that prevents you from being a fully functioning cult member.

  Last time I checked you needed a car, a tablet, a suit, somewhere to live and at least a minimum wage job for that because WT is NOT a charity.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  sparrowdown

  Not necessarily a lie, when WT says in effect "give up everything" for (I'm assuming) the "pearl of high value" it basically means give up everything that is incompatible with being a JW. Or IOW anything that might limit your ability to be a fully functioning recruiting agent for WT.
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  How many times can you be DF'd?

  by Fader812 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was one guy in our hall who got df'd 3 times, on the fourth time he never came back.

  i wonder if they told him not to come back?

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  sparrowdown

  Ugh, just the thought it. People that find themselves DFed and then go through the demeaning reinstatement process more than once could be considered gluttons for punishment I spose.

  The old saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results being the definition of insanity springs to mind as well.
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  ARC recommendations. Read for yourselves

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2017-08/report-on-criminal-justice-released.

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  sparrowdown

  Thanks for posting zeb.
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  Will religion ever truly be accountable for the abuse it has inflicted on children ? Sexuall or otherwise ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the sad truth in todays society is that religion gets an out of jail card on so many levels and i cant think of how this situation is ever going to change in the foreseeable future.. my main fear is that the few investigations going on is just to appease those clamouring for justice .. and the forces in control are just seen to be doing the right thing whereas nothing concrete except for some small token judgements will ever be executed.. call me a cynic but i doubt the arc will bring about much change at the end of the day.. remember they dont have much authority to do anything except advise..

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  sparrowdown

  I doubt we will ever see anything resembling adequate justice for any of WT's crimes against children the family and liberty.

  It seems to me now that if a person manages to escape WT intact, without having suffered physical or sexual abuse or any lasting profound mental illness from the barrage of psychological abuse one is exposed to during their childhood and life as a dub, then, that person is one of the lucky ones.

  Having said that, I believe with every fibre of my being that exposing the true nature of this cult is NOT a waste of time. It's important that current JW children don't get baptized, they don't go on to marry a JW and pass on the cult to the next gen and the general public can see through their honey trap website and recruiting methods.
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  Why the vitriolic hate?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.

  why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.

  surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.

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  sparrowdown

  Standard practise with cults is to demonize defectors. Anyone or anything outside the compound is bad and anyone who escapes the compound is worse - a traitor, a vile defector that has to be demonized in order to discourage others from questioning the leaders and the rules.
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  Watchtower's unscriptual boasting about works

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  nothing big here, just a little musing on this scripture at ephesians 2.8-9 that definately states that only faith saves, not works, in case men start to boast about their amazing works.

  "8for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of god, 9not of works, that no one would boast.

  well my word, i would definately say witnesses *do nothing but boast*, especially now on jw broadcast.

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  sparrowdown

  Lol @vidiot.

  Or.

  Jehovah...Governing Body...money...website... repeat.
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  Beautiful new kingdom song

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
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  has anyone noticed this new song?

  i think it's absolutely beautiful.

  it's got a film score quality about it, with depth and feeling.

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  sparrowdown

  Exactly Cofty!
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  The average Witness will continue to follow Watchtower leadership whether right or wrong.

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hate to say this, but given my own experience as a jw for almost 3 decades, i am beginning to believe the average jw will continue to look to and be guided by the gb regardless of whether they are right or wrong.. despite all the scandals and negative media attention the watchtower organisation is receiving, life seems to go on as normal in jw land.

  it's truly bizarre!!.

  clearly, the gbs tactic of mostly hiding away from the media is clearly working for them.

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  sparrowdown

  Maybe yes, maybe no. My thoughts are that people have woken up and have either left or are in the process of leaving and I think this slow trickle mutiny will continue, but, there will be those who will remain loyal to the mothership even as it changes into another format.