Lies, manipulation and schemes shouldn't be required of anybody who has learned the TTATT. If everyone in the KH stopped doing that, I'll bet they would look around and find 1/4 of their KH members have been fooling everyone about their true feelings. Enough already with being a phoney.
zimunzucz
JoinedPosts by zimunzucz
-
12
Need to Vent: Well this weekend is a wash, 3 days of my life i will not get back and wife is slipping in to cult mode
by goingthruthemotions inyep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.
and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.
almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.
-
-
-
65
WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies
by Designer Stubble inthe last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.
i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.
we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.
-
-
zimunzucz
JWs never exaggerate, they are real Bible scholars and only follow the Bible. ha- - that is what a young adult JW girl told me last weekend at the hotel- if she only knew the quality of the people in the writing dept--
-
109
The Confederate Flag
by Simon inthe latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.
he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.
not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.
-
-
zimunzucz
They interviewed a wide swath of people in my local FL newspaper. Hardly anyone saw anything wrong with the Confederate flag- even the blacks just viewed it as " old history", and not something that personally affected them today, unlike getting a good job , which has gotten very hard for Blacks since the president let in the illegals. As I see it, this flag thing is a calculated distraction, to keep the minorities from seeing Obama's failures in the African American community. Some blacks are doing OK, Like the Haitians down here, who are real workers-- they have taken over the trucking and moving jobs. I shook the hand of a Haitian man recently who was of the same trade I was."Your people fought for your freedom- you shed blood to get free- not like the blacks in America." I sometimes wonder, if the black slaves in America would have ever organized and fought for their own freedom had the Civil war never happened.
Speaking of Freedom- it appears the Federal government told Amazon they had to stop selling the Confederate Flag on their auction site- imagine that, being strong armed by a democratic government.
-
12
Contrary to News Reports the ZEAL is Still There
by steve2 inzeal has always been a valued word in the jw arsenal.
even if you don't see it in your own local congregation, you keep hearing about it.
"zeal this" and "zeal that".
-
-
zimunzucz
Only the best JW liars can have the appearance of "true zeal"- they have fooled themselves, though, as the lie is costing them the best years of their life-- before they die like everyone else in the world before them.
Just wait until the Great Tribulation - their zeal will disappear, just like Fluffy the poodle.
-
20
Is it necessary to prepare for the Watchtower or book study?
by BashfulAshG inall of my years in the truth, i never understood why we had to study before each meeting.
the contents are self-explanatory with the answers to the printed question within the first or the last sentence of the paragraph.
then, commenting never made sense, especially comments and experiences that don't answer the printed question.
-
-
zimunzucz
JW have shown themselves to be blockheads when it comes to deciphering the faithful slave's "meat in die season"- types, anti-types, greater, lesser-- they used to say, well, only the anointed can understand today' s 'Tower and then everyone in the group would smile and nod their heads- except the end of 6000 years of human existence and the date -1975 on chart in the "freedom" book, now all the JWs knew what the hidden meaning was in that book!
-
30
Where Is The Jehovah's Witness Zeal?
by minimus init seems to me that the religion is nearly dead.
or dying.
very little pulse exists for the organization.
-
-
zimunzucz
Well, I'm not sure how Minimus knows what JWs are doing, but JWs are still talking, but doing less canvassing, IMO- who wants to do cold calls and have to explain WT mistakes?
I ran into 2 Hispanic men every other day just before 7am at the 7-11 a few months ago. The tip off was when I saw the older one talking to a guy pumping gas and holding up a medium size tract-- aha- It was still dark, so if your weren't looking for them, you didn't see them.
So I walked around to the side and just as I expected, I spies a younger JW- 18-20 sitting in the car. I give him an earful- then the other JW comes back and he gets it to. My guess is they were doing their service time the easy way in April for the special easy pioneer rope-a-dope campaign- is it 30 hrs? They were taking turns so as to not get worn out- haha- but counting the full time, I suppose.
They would hunker down in the seat when they saw me-too late- - I even left home 10 minutes early before work so I could talk to them. yes, I set them up several times just so they could lie to me. They just don't care if they get caught lying about shunning, dates, etc- nope, they just shrug their shoulders and ignore they are liars. The younger one had a chance- maybe he looked up beth sarim and the websites I mentioned-- They lasted a week and half- I was amazed they took that many days of punishment from me.
-
65
WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies
by Designer Stubble inthe last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.
i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.
we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.
-
-
zimunzucz
JWs always lie about blood transfusions- I can bury them every time on that teaching -
12
Need to Vent: Well this weekend is a wash, 3 days of my life i will not get back and wife is slipping in to cult mode
by goingthruthemotions inyep, the cult fest is upon us....3 days of my life i will not get back....ughhhhhhhh.
and my wife has been slipping in to cult mode the last 2 days.....you know the look.
almost like a glazed over look with a side of guilt and a side of narrow mindedness.
-
-
zimunzucz
People have the right to personal opinions and spouses (like you) are people. Use first person to express how you are unhappy, like.
It makes me feel bad when the organization won't admit they were wrong about a teaching. It's not my job to explain away their mistake to the public.
I get depressed thinking about the JW woman who refused life saving medical care and her unborn baby died, then she died later, too. A blood transfusion won't save the life of a starving man, so I know it has nothing to do with the Bible teaching to "not eat blood".
I get depressed when I see the churches helping the homeless and hungry, but our KH won't even collect food for the local food pantry. If I ask the elders to set up a food drive in the KH to help the local poor, they will think I am weird.
Well, I can't explain the 1914 date to anyone- what if the householder asks me to explain 100 years and nothing has happened , yet? I'll look stupid trying, well maybe I am the dumb one.
We build scads of quick build KH's, but never once do we help our community to build a habitat for humanity house. it's not wonder the public sees JWs as losers. I don't blame our neighbors for thinking JWs are unloving and strange people.
I heard a joke today- two JW's and two Mormons meet at a sidewalk- the JW says, "we don't move for false prophets". The Mormons reply, " But, we do" and they go around the JW's. A householder once told me that JWs said, "stay alive until 1975"- I told her she was mistaken, but I recently looked it up and it was a common phrase that JWs used back then- except after 1975, they didn't remember saying it.
I am feeling torn up inside about service. If a householder asked you, if it was true what they heard about JWs shuning former members, even their won adult children who leave the KH, would you tell them the truth, yes, or lie about it? If we tell the truth, then nobody will want to become a JW, if we lie about it- isn't that wrong? Isn't Satan called the father of the lie? Lets make a promise- to always tell the truth whenever a worldly person asks us a question- OK?
Anyway,
If your wife has no sympathy for your unhappiness, then I am sorry for your plight.
Like I said, people have a right to be a JW and can believe the WT doctrines. I would advise you to begin considering a marvel approach with your wife- Tell The Truth.
No human being can go through life living a lie and if your wife won't allow you to live a normal life as a man free of the WT religion, then so be it. Better to be free than a doormat for the the JWs.
-
58
Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
-
-
zimunzucz
It's going to be hard for JWs to live down 1914-2014= a 100 years of WT stupidity. So, rather than take their lumps and quit they dig their heels in and double down the bet that Armageddon just has to be even closer than it was last year.
-
58
Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
-
-
zimunzucz
Last year I called up a few KH's, usually on Saturday morning- I wanted to see what they thought.
ring ring- hello
"Are you having your special WT anniversary talk this Sunday?"
"We're having a talk, but I don't know anything about the anniversary talk"
"You haven't heard about it yet?"
"No, what is it?"
"It's called, 1914 to 2014, JWs celebrate 100 years and nothing has happened, yet"- haha"
Surprisingly, several elder types tried to do damage control with me, but ended up in deep doodoo, instead. One elder whined, "I'll bet you think I'm stupid" - well, what do you think a smart person would do when the WT changed the 1914 generation again?-
So yes, JWs are embarrassed about 1914-2014 and they hope the householder doesn't remind them about their special anniversary.
