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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

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  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  DuvanMuvan

  "Evolution seems to me

  to be a male invention based on their own vanity and

  need to be on top."

  This coming from the person who reffered to god as a "he"?
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  Understanding the differences between doing a good job and doing a perfect job

  by Terry in

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  for anything to be perfect, there has to be a standard in place regarding its function.. i love to use the analogy of a dinner fork.. if your standard for eating is the conveying of food from plate to mouth, a fork is a. perfect.

  utensil for eating peas, fries, etc.. .

  however--it is not worth much for eating soup!

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  DuvanMuvan

  Rip van winkle I always hated that bread pan illustration. What wise god can't be bothered to get a new bread pan? Or fix the flipping dent? Then when all his bread doesnt turn out how he wants it, he throws a hissy fit and destroys everything?
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  I survived a 3-hour manipulation session with 2 elderettes!

  by Faithful Witness in

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  i'm not sure how else to describe this meeting at my kitchen table.

  my elderette ("miss k") arrived with her friend in tow.

  i vaguely remember the 2nd lady ("miss w") from the times we went to the kh, but like miss k, we never really talked in depth.

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  Island man you realised you did just what Miss K kept doing right. "So it's possible..."??? Seriously?
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  I survived a 3-hour manipulation session with 2 elderettes!

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm not sure how else to describe this meeting at my kitchen table.

  my elderette ("miss k") arrived with her friend in tow.

  i vaguely remember the 2nd lady ("miss w") from the times we went to the kh, but like miss k, we never really talked in depth.

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  DuvanMuvan

  If I were you I wouldn't let this go. Whenever you see them ask if they've done some reasearch and got an answer yet because you aren't going to even consider becoming a jw if this basic question can't be answered properly. If they try to change the subject just say something like "I'm sorry but I'm not the type of person who sees something wrong with something and chooses to ignore it. If you want me to listen to what you have to say, prove to me you know what you're talking about first."
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  Apostate causes JWs to run away with their literature carts

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  saw this on youtube.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97rqlsjpkc.

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  DuvanMuvan

  still not sure if I like this couple. Good on them for wanting to do something about the jws misleading people but the way they do it makes them look a bit obsessed in my opinion.
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  DuvanMuvan

  @metatron now that's my kind of "new light"
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  DuvanMuvan

  I live and go to school in the uk and for gcse biology one of the topics is evolution. Theres always a question that comes up in the exams which is basically "what was Darwin's theory of natural selection". The answer they were looking for was along the lines of:

  "A random mutation occurs in a species that alters the dna of the organism with that mutation. If this mutation is beneficial to the species them the organism is able to survive and pass on its beneficial mutation to their offspring through sexual reproduction. Over time the organisms without this mutation die out leaving only the ones with the mutation left."

  I always enjoyed seeing that question in an exam because it was an easy 4 marks. It was also the definition I gave to my mum when she did a dub and confused evolution with abiogenesis.

  I'm not 100% if this is right though because they have a habit of leaving out all the details and stuff out of gcse level science
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  Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?

  " i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....

  now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.

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  DuvanMuvan

  Quick question, unrelated, what does "marked" mean? I'm still pretty new here.
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  How many members of our forum are there, and where are most from?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. experiences

  i would love to know where most of our fellow forum members are from.... is there a way to compile a quick list?.

  for example, i would love to know how many live near me......

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  DuvanMuvan

  bristol, uk
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  Congregation Contributions

  by nolongerconfused in

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  do you guys remember when the congregation's monthly contribution report was read out loud in the service meeting?

  obviously, they don't do that anymore... does anyone here know why exactly they stopped reading the report publicly?.

  seems fishy to me.

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  DuvanMuvan

  WTWizard at the assemblies in my circuit there was always a deficit but that was probably rectified after the announcement as all the people who now felt guilty for not donating went and chucked a fiver or two into the contribution box after it ended