Hope you don't think I'm too much off topic. Bohnet was largely responsible for my family being involved in the cult. It was around the turn of the 20th century. His proselytizing got two great great aunts involved, then it was my grandmother, then three of her children, including my mother, myself plus numerous cousins, and now it's several of my cousins' grandchildren. So there are at least 6 generations and there may be a 7th generation by now. Talk about the difficulty of breaking away from all these family bonds! It's been going on for over 100 years
Bonnie_Clyde
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Bohnet also grew super beans...
by Aussie Oz ingarden pea-beans.
dear brother russell:-- wt1912.
last spring a brother in the west sent me a supply of pea-beans,.
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The look in my mothers eyes
by Sour Grapes ini asked my mother today, who is in her late.
80's, if she ever thought that she would ever.
get this old and see 2010 on this side of the.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I was 56 years old when I started my research on the Internet. I delayed for several months, thinking...I'm too old to leave now. then I asked myself, would it be easier now or 10, 20 or 30 years from now? I'm so glad I did even though I suffered a lot of indignities from my extended family. At least my immediate family is intact and we are closer than ever. It's been slow, but Clyde and I are meeting new friends and new ways to enjoy our remaining years.
Has anyone watched the movie, Bucket List. I need to start my own list of things I would like to do before I kick the bucket.
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1975 For Deniers
by Farkel in1975 for deniers.
most of today's jws were not members in 1975 or in the 9 years prior to 1975, so they were not eyewitnesses to what really went on during that period.
i was a pioneer in that period, and i was an eyewitness to what went on.. those jws who are still active today and who were around in that period will typically say it was the "brothers" who "ran ahead of jehovah" and "read more into" the 1975 prediction than what was actually stated.
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I distinctly remember our CO, John Caister, almost shout from the platform, "The Society was not wrong about 1914, and it will NOT be wrong about 1975!" A few months later on his next visit, he said exactly the same thing. That was about 1969-1970.
Many old timers are the victims of a disease called "collective amnesia."
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What will the elders think?
by TMS ina week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.
despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.
he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Leviticus 19:28: "You must not make cuts in your flesh for a deceased soul, and you must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah."
I like the preceding verse: "You must not destroy the extremity of your beard."
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Does Our Being Former JWs Affect Our Enjoyment of XMas?
by minimus ini went to 2 parties yesterday.
i actually was invited to 4 this year.. i started out at my daughter's at 7:30 a.m. and my daughter, sil, 2 grandkids and my ex gave presents to one another.
95% of the gifts were for my 2 year old grandaughter because it was really her first xmas to unwrap presents and get into the "spirit".. then i went in the afternoon to my gf's and they had a big spread and we (once again) exchanged gifts.. here's my bottom line: i enjoyed the family and friends getting together.
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Clyde and I don't get into it much. No tree, no decorations. But we have nothing against it. It surprises me that some of our "worldly" friends don't do much either, but it's mostly the ones who don't have kids. Our son and daughter-in-law aren't celebrating it either even though they have two children. They don't mind our granddaughter taking part in the school festivities though.
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Service groups on Christmas Day.......Can't they leave people alone for one day?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy wife took our dog for a walk this morning around 9:30 a.m. and saw a ''service group'' leaving my uncle's house this morning.
she said there were about 8 people getting in 2 cars.
she asked me, ''why would they go out today when people are celebrating christmas''?
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember a woman who came into the "truth" when somebody visited her on Christmas Day.
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Honesty in Field Service Reports....This week's CBS topic (among others)
by Open mind inthis week's congregation "bible" study.
the drone running the show asked an auxiliary question (tm):.
"so, what could be some of the consequences if people weren't honest in reporting their field service?".
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Bonnie_Clyde
Years ago I remember a pioneer sister from Alaska who moved to our area with her family. She never failed to get her hours in even during the move. Wasn't hard. She would just place magazines at every gas station on the way and count the time in between. Even when settled in our territory, she would go out a little bit, then go home and when her children got home on the bus, she would continue counting her time while she had a Bible study with them, or so she said.
Come to think of it--wayyyy back when I pioneered, I would start my time by writing a letter (or at least get a paragraph done), then drive to the KH for the meeting for FS, then go in service, then stop my time when I got back home and finished the letter. I felt I was being honest, however, by deducting the actual time we were at the KH. Well...I had to be creative. Had to get 100 hours in back then.
Bonnie
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That is neat, and to think...I almost didn't open it. Clyde laughed his head off.
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US publisher report for last year - "official" numbers from Society letter
by sir82 indidn't see this posted anywhere, my apologies if this is a repeat..... in a letter to all congregations dated 12/9/09, the society wrote out some highlights of the previous service year.
the letter is to be read to the congregation "at the first service meeting after its receipt".. here are the numbers they report (all numbers are for us only):.
-- average publishers - 1,096,502. this is about a 4% increase (3.5% if you don't round) over the prior year's average of 1,059,253.. -- that "4% increase" in average publishers is the largest since 1992.
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5 or 6 years ago, they added a provision for very old or very sick publishers that 15 minutes is enough to be counted as a publisher. But that doesn't apply to everyone, just those approved by the service committee. In my expereince, there are very very few who get approved that way, far less than 1 per congregation.
Actually, I was approved--not because I was "very old or sick" but because my time was taken up with caring for my very old and sick parents. I didn't ask for the approval, but when the elders came to visit, they gave me the OK. I didn't take them up on it.
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Working for a JW, what a horrible experience...
by HappyGuy inone of the things that made me start doubting the wtbts and jws was the way jws treat their jw employees.. i worked for jws several times.
the experience was always the same.. 1. pay was less than the going market rate for the same work at "worldly" companies.. 2. there were no benefits of any kind, no paid holidays, no sick time, no overtime, no insurance.. 3. whenever possible the jw forced the jw employees to pay their own company related expenses like gas, pager, company uniform, etc.. 4. any attempt to discuss the poor working conditions was always responded to with "but you get to make all the meetings and you get to go to the assemblies and you get to work for brothers.
" and, if you said "i would go to meetings regardless of who i worked for" and pushed back on that answer then they started in on your "loyalty" and you were unspritual if you questioned a "brother" and were not "loyal" to your employer.. 5. any attempt to find another job was met with harassment, being told you could not give the jw employer as a reference, being threatened with lawsuits, etc.. 6. the jw employers themselves were lazy and would not do the things they expected of their jw employees.. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------.
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Bonnie_Clyde
My current manager is a JW, but I'm not sure if he knows my background. But he's a nice enough guy that if he did know, he wouldn't make it an issue. He knows that I'm a valuable worker. I work solely on commission, and the more I make, the more he makes. It wouldn't make sense for him to rock the boat.