Posts by Bonnie

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R.Franz "Christian Freedom" Bk - Misuse of Disfellowshipping -WT Hypocrisy

by flipper in

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just finished the chapter in ray's " christian freedom " book on " misuse of disfellowshipping .

i highly recommend anyone reading it as it has numerous experiences of individuals who were mistreated so unjustly by the wt society's rigid rules - many in spite of 40, 50, or 60 yrs.

of faithful alleigance to the wt society's rules.

Bonnie_Clyde

Thanks Flipper. At least I have two wonderful sons and two wonderful daughters-in-law. Just wish the family could be complete, but so many have it much worse than I.

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R.Franz "Christian Freedom" Bk - Misuse of Disfellowshipping -WT Hypocrisy

by flipper in

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just finished the chapter in ray's " christian freedom " book on " misuse of disfellowshipping .

i highly recommend anyone reading it as it has numerous experiences of individuals who were mistreated so unjustly by the wt society's rigid rules - many in spite of 40, 50, or 60 yrs.

of faithful alleigance to the wt society's rules.

Although Clyde and I are not disfellowshipped and most witnesses will speak to us if we see them on the street, our daughter has absolutely shunned us for four or five years all because of a brief conversation I had with her and her husband regarding the organization. I posted part of our conversation right after it happened (see link) but never dreamed it would completely destroy our relationship.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/74189/1/Selling-homes-and-property-pre-1975

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Have You Ever Wondered If Someone You Knew Was On Here?

by minimus in

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that would be somethin'!.

Bonnie_Clyde

I thought you might be hearing from Purple Sofa. I believe she recognized somebody on here.

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Woe to the Pregnant woman

by exwhyzee in

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luke 21:23 " woe to the pregnant woman and the ones suckling a baby in those days!

for there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people.. the society always applied this scripture, which was talking about the destruction of jerusalem, to the last days and the destruction of this system of things.

the big 1975 push was in full swing when my mother found out she was pregnant with my youngest sister.

Bonnie_Clyde

I remember all the hoopla about 1975 as well as the brutal persecution in Malawi which was very upsetting. I remember writing several letters to the officials in Malawi as well. I didn't really believe in the 1975 date--remembering a statement in the All Scripture Is Inspired Book which was first published in 1963 (page 286):

"Does this mean that by 1963 we had progressed 5,988 years into the "day" on which Jehovah 'has been resting from all his work'? No, for the creation of Adam (4026 BCE) does not correspond with the beginning of Jehovah's rest day. Following Adam's creation, and still within the sixth creative day, Jehovah appears to have been forming further animal and bird creations.....Whatever time elapsed between Adam's creation and the end of the 'sixth day' must be subtracted from the 5,988 years in order to give the actual length of time from the beginning of the 'seventh day' until now. It does no good to use Bible chronology for speculating on dates that are still future in the stream of time."

I was surprised thast only three years after 1963 (1966) they suddenly decided it was OK to "speculate." However, I still believed in the 70 or 80 years reasoning, but it wasn't until about 1998 that I really began my journey out of the borg. I kick myself to this day that I didn't leave sooner. It would have saved a bunch of problems.

Bonnie

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Malawi vs Mexico vs Oath of Allegiance - Lastest article needs proof reading

by jwfacts in

i have just completed an article that compares the situation of malawi, mexico and the oath of allegiance.

it is based on franz's chapter double standards and jehovahs witnesses and national oaths of allegiance by marvin shilmer.. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/malawi-mexico-oath-allegiance.php.

if you notice any errors, please let me know.. .

Bonnie_Clyde

I remember sending letters to the officials in Malawi.

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So...how EVIL was Theodore Jaracz??

by Joliette in

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i'm reading crisis of conscience right now and even raymond franz mentioned in his book that ted jaracz didnt vote during governing body sessions based off of 'a gut feeling' like dan sydlik and lyman swingle did, but voted based off of having 'a mean spirit (dont quote me on that) but bascially got an overall vibe that ted jaracz was not a very nice man.

and whats this about the child abuse policy that he enforced?

what did he do that made every ex-jw's in america hate him?

Bonnie_Clyde

My daughter-in-law's father stated that he went out in service once with Teddy--it was during an assembly. Thought he was very nice. Well you can't find out much a person's real character in two or three hours.

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New report on global warming. 10 indicators tell the same story.

by bohm in

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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/pr20100728.html.

for those who make up their mind based on facts.

(for those who deny the findings in the report: did you read it?).

Bonnie_Clyde

I pointed you to that website to show that not all scientists are in agreement. One thing is for sure--at any one time the earth is either warming, cooling or staying the same.

BTW, what was the weather like in Russia during the 30's? Or in the rest of the world? I know one thing. Lots of Americans lost their crops due to the heatwaves in the 30's, and lots of people lost their lives.

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News report on Arizona Assembly Hall

by cabasilas in

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in today's arizona republic:.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/07/29/20100729arizona-volunteers-build-worship-center.html.

Bonnie_Clyde

"I remember the good old days of renting facilities or driving a long distance to the circuit assemblies. When they build such it can be a real blessing for those going to the assembly."

That depends on where you live in relation to the location of the assembly hall. In the old days the assembly locations moved from city to city so sometimes it was in our home town. My cousin has to drive a couple of hundred miles now to her assembly hall.

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