Posts by Bonnie

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

Bonnie_Clyde

Publisher increase for 1974: 13.5%!!

Publisher increase for 1975: 9.7%!!

Publisher increase for 1976: 3.7%!!

Publisher decrease for 1977: -1%!!

Publisher decrease for 1978: -1.4%!!

The most significant growth in the history of Jehovahs Witnesses took place in the runup years to 1975. To all you lurking Witnesses and apologists: Do you really think that such growth was accomplished by 'a few over zealous' publishers that 'read too much into the 1975 date'?

Thanks Sparky - I remember it wasn't until 1979 that the WT very casually admitted that they were just a teeny bit responsible for the 1975 fiasco--since their numbers were starting to go negative.

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One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

"rent/extortion) were even met.

$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

Bonnie_Clyde

Back in the 60's and early 70's there was one high school in our area that gave us their facility for free--and assemblies were 3 days back then.

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Terminology the Society Hates?

by toweragent in

in my most recent talk, i got counseled for using some terms that were not prefered.

for example i said "new testament" rather than "the christian greek scriptures".

i also used the term "gospel", but even worse, i made reference to the "synoptic gospels" and the "gnostic gospel".. i guess i never thought of it before, but when i looked at the societies information on the matter they always say things like, "the so-called new testament..." or "the so-called synoptic gospels..." why with all the "so-called?".

Bonnie_Clyde

Jesus Christ is OK...but not Lord Jesus

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October 1914? Really?

by sylvlef in

km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

"the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

Bonnie_Clyde

An elder explained this to me years ago. World War I may have started in August, but it wasn't until October that 10 nations were involved, and the number 10 is a perfect number. Made sense to me at the time....

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Shark Navigator Lift-away vs Dyson

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i already have a dyson, but we have three floors in our house, and i don't like carrying it up and down stairs...it's so heavy (bad back).

just saw a sale at costco for the shark for $119...a lot cheaper than dyson.

anybody have an opinion if you think it's worth it as a second vacuum..

Bonnie_Clyde

Thank you SafeatHome - I'm going to buy that Shark Lift Away. You're right the Dyson is heavy and awkward. Although it does a good job, it's not worth the extra money.

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Shark Navigator Lift-away vs Dyson

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i already have a dyson, but we have three floors in our house, and i don't like carrying it up and down stairs...it's so heavy (bad back).

just saw a sale at costco for the shark for $119...a lot cheaper than dyson.

anybody have an opinion if you think it's worth it as a second vacuum..

Bonnie_Clyde

I already have a Dyson, but we have three floors in our house, and I don't like carrying it up and down stairs...it's so heavy (bad back). Just saw a sale at Costco for the Shark for $119...a lot cheaper than Dyson. Anybody have an opinion if you think it's worth it as a second vacuum.

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Anyone recall a time when your congregation came to the aid of a Brother or sister in need??

by jam in

i'm not talking about a individual, but a congregation as a whole.. i'm talking about a brother or sister that really hit hard times.. have there ever been an occasion where the brothers (elders).

decided to dip into the kh funds and help one in need????.

example, brother loose his job, get evicted, family of four or.

Bonnie_Clyde

When my elderly parents were in need of assistance, they got very little help with the exception of one very nice couple. I remember one sister who asked me how my parents were doing, and I said they would really appreciate some visitors as they were very lonely. She said she would but she was very busy as she was going to pioneer next month. She never did show up. I remember at least twice seeing two carloads of witnesses calling on their neighbors but they skipped my parent's house. That was my eye opener. I realized that any assistance in the congregation is not because of the organization--it's despite the organization.

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Why are you looking forward to 1872? Er, 1873? Um...1874? Oh, I mean 1975?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

"why are you looking forward to 1872?".

.. "in this chapter we present the bible evidence which indicates that six thousand years from the creation of adam were complete with a.d. 1872; and hence that, since a.d. 1872 are chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the millennium.

" (studies in the scriptures, vol.

Bonnie_Clyde

What about the book "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Son's of God?" I remember when that book was released at the disctrict assembly, and it started a buzz through the assembly. Don't remember the page, but a chart showed the beginning of the thousand year reign in 1975. Everybody knows that Armageddon had to be over by then.

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Is this new donation arrangement for real?

by nugget in

just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

Bonnie_Clyde

Nugget said: "what we once did not believe was possible has proven to be business a usual. this organisation has changed radically since I was baptised and will continue to do so. The rumours of today are possibly closer to the truth than we could imagine."

Not long ago I would never have imagined that they would be putting ATM's at the assembly halls. They've condemned the churches for this. Now they're doing it too.

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Audio of Detroit Propaganda Video

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

i couldn't take video to avoid blowing my cover.

the audio quality could be better.

can anyone enhance it?.

Bonnie_Clyde

I remember well the hot assemblies at the Silverdome. But the worst assembly I remember was at the State fairgrounds in Detroit (1964). We thought at first it was a tornado hitting. The wind blew over the speaker's stand, and the program had to stop for awhile. We were sitting back under a roofed area and thought we would be OK. But the wind drove the rain horizontally back into the grandstand. We put up an umbrella but it turned inside out and rain drenched our clothes and our bookbags. After the weather cleared, we saw men walking around in wet suits that looked like they were shrinking on their bodies, and women had makeup running down their faces. A lot of people left, but not me. The program resumed after maybe half an hour. And, being the good J Dub that I was, I sat and listened to the revealing of a "new truth" regarding the resurrection.

Some of us thought we were going to need a resurrection.

Bonnie_Clyde

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