Posts by Bonnie

110

How many remember the 1969 8 day convention?

by seek2find in

anybody remember the 8 day 1969 international convention.

i was at the braves stadium in atlanta all 8 days with a sunburn and then wet clothes after the rain storms.

if you were there (not necessarily in atlanta) do you remember anything about it?

Bonnie_Clyde

"If there is a real burning hell, back in 1969 in Atlanta"

Clyde and I were in our 20's and we had our 2-year old boy with us. Mid-week Clyde got sick, it was so hot and humid. He had to stay back at the hotel for the air-conditioning, but dutifully I took our son to the assembly. FINALLY, Sunday morning Clyde said, "We are leaving!" I was shocked as I felt it was our duty to stay for the entire week. But we left and drove up into the mountains of North Carolina, and I can't describe the relief. Clyde almost immediately got better with the cooler mountain air. We've talked about that miserable assembly for years.

24

have you noticed how the main Jw preaching message has changed?

by nowwhat? in

years ago it was all about armageddon and getting out of babylon the great.

then with the draw close to jehovah and is there a creator that care about you.

it was all about building a relationship with jehovah.

Bonnie_Clyde

They still talk about Armageddon but only to themselves, don't want to tell the public because they want to keep the message positive. I watched a TV show that was about several religions that teach Armageddon, and JW's were not mentioned.

20

$25,000 for one-day assembly in our area

by Bonnie_Clyde in

they started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000.

the speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the atm machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

after the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards.

Bonnie_Clyde

They started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000. The speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the ATM machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite. After the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards. Later in the car, even his hard-core JW wife mentioned that she wondered how it cost that much for a one-day assembly in a building that was fully paid for.

52

Convention program 2017 AM3

by George One Time in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2017/friday/.

why would our beloved gb member be on the top picture of the program?.

any ideas?.

Bonnie_Clyde

"I often wondered why an Elder was removed when a child left "the troof." Isn't that child an adult and can now choose freely?"

Seems like Jehovah lost 1/3 of his angels. What about the Nephilim? Did that make him a bad father?

21

Is the Mid Week Meeting shorter or longer than before they stopped doing the book study at homes?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?.

Bonnie_Clyde

Years ago the meeting at our hall was actually 2 hours and 15 minutes (maybe 2 hours and 10 minutes). The Ministry School had to be a full hour, the Service meeting had to be a full hour, and we had to allow extra time for song and prayer, including the middle song. So the meeting started at 7:25 p.m. and ended about 9:40 p.m. That was really rough on the school kids. We would get home at 10:15 p.m. at the earliest.

7

1914 in the revised NWT ?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

just awhile ago i saw someone mentioned that 1914 made it's way into the revised nwt.

if this is true, will someone tell me where?.

Bonnie_Clyde

Just awhile ago I saw someone mentioned that 1914 made it's way into the revised NWT. If this is true, will someone tell me where?

29

Watchtower Annulled My Baptism

by RICHT in

contrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.

in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.

err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.

Bonnie_Clyde

Don't forget back in the 60's, you didn't have to go through all the questions with an elder before baptism. Basically all you had to do was show up. A person could have claimed ignorance.

28

Bro Knorrs Notes RE Disfellowshipping & Two Witness Rule

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

a fellow ex jw shared this with me.

haven't time to read them yet (i'm using my phone to go on internet).

Bonnie_Clyde

It appears legit to me. Three things I noticed.

1) It was a doctor in the congregation who gave her treatment and who seduced her, but she wouldn't tell them who the doctor was? Seems like they could figure it out. How many doctors would there be in a congregation? Most congregations don't have any.

2) "If guilty of adultery before 1947, don't dig in." What happened in 1947?

3) They were calling the congregation a "company" as late as 1951?

31

"Historical" Announcement This Week?

by headisspinning in

my daughter asked if anyone has heard anything about a 'big announcement' being made sometime this week in congregations in canada and possibly beyond... in her words "it's like a biggggg long thing, they cut out part of the book study for it and people heard it was a historical thing"... any ideas?

could it be the mexican branch closing or the theme of the convention?

or something else?

Bonnie_Clyde

"I was listening to JT,s podcast recently on Critical Thinkers site and on one episode, he was talking about how the Watchtower in the next 5 years will be making a change in the Blood issue because of all the lawsuits. Now that would be historical if they did remove the ban on blood, and maybe a lot of witnesses would finally wake up."

If this were to happen, maybe they would have to pull up the WT article from 1998 about "Feelings of having suffered needlessly" and how the brothers who had to go to prison because of the alternative service ruling were told to be happy that they suffered even though the rule changed later. Maybe we should be happy that our loved ones died because of the blood ban because they were being faithful at the time even if the rule changed later.

That article from 1998 is what got me thinking...

9

A better way to ask questions - Anybody remember "Amazing"?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

first of all, i wonder whatever happened to jim whitney (aka amazing).

when i first joined this forum, i remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out.

instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "how would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?

Bonnie_Clyde

First of all, I wonder whatever happened to Jim Whitney (AKA Amazing). When I first joined this forum, I remember being so impressed by the way he got his family out. Instead of knocking the organization head-on, he would ask questions that can't be answered during his family study, such as, "How would you answer someone if they said we were false prophets?" Or, "How can be show someone that Jehovah is using the Governing Body to lead his people." Or, what would you say to a doctor who asks why we can accept blood fractions but not a blood transfusion." Or, "What would we answer someone who claims the Watchtower predicted 1914 and 1975 as the year for Armageddon?" Then he would ask the family to do some research during the week. His method worked!

For those who are wanting to fade, wouldn't this be a better way to ask the elders without raising suspicion? Always throw the question back to a 3rd party. I notice a lot of the posters like to ask these questions head-one, and it very seldom works.

Bonnie_Clyde

Posts by Bonnie_Clyde