Shortly after 9-11 I remember getting one of those emails that circulate about a brother who had turned down an opportunity to work in the WTC in favor of pioneering. How thankful he was that he pursued theocratic interests because otherwise he might have perished!
Bonnie_Clyde
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"9/11 was in fact....an Attack on Jehovah's Organization!!"
by RagingBull ingood day,.
this week is the super special week of activity with one of our favorite jw celebrities...the circuit overseer!!!.
in last night's talk, he gave sooooo much encouragement...just hearing him made me want to fall to my knees and worship him!
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Atheists..... throwing the baby out with the bath water ?
by snare&racket inthis saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
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Bonnie_Clyde
It seems to me like there are more atheists on this board (percentage-wise) than there are in general. I talk to many non-jw people in my area (some quite well educated) who believe in God and are quite religious.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I personally knew 5 people who committed suicide and one attempted suicide. The attempted suicide person slashed her throat, but later told people she had throat surgery and that's why she has to wear turtle necks even in the summer time. We found out the real reason through her brother.
Also know of 6 people who were murdered by JW's. One killed his wife and three children. Didn't know the killer personally, but my son did.
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Brother Waldo D/O, Circuit Assembly Insights About Education ( College) For JW Boys and Girls.
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini wanted to share some additional insights from the circuit assembly star player, brother waldo.
when brother waldo was not talking about .
the glory days of being a machinist, he attacked higher education, and how worthless it is.. brother waldo explained in one of his talks, "the.
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Bonnie_Clyde
The point is...the WT needs to stop sticking their nose into other people's business. Whether it is beneficial or not to attend college is up to the family--not a bunch of ****** in Brooklyn.
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Got Disfellowshipped!
by time2keepmoving inwell, i was disfellowshipped about 2 weeks ago.
i was in it for ten years and it was 9 years and 11 months too long.
i honestly don't know why it took me so long to do my research on this organization.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Every ministry school it was more and more badgering about "how can you increase your time in the FS, how to do more in the FS, starting a doorstep bible study, are you making the most of your return visits, are you doing all you can, are you witnessing informally, are you taking advantage of evening witnessing, can you make it a habit to go out on Sundays" that mess never stopped. I felt like they don't give a woot about me as a person, do they? All they want me to do is slave away in the FS. The heck with what am going through, what am feeling or helping me develop a better personal relationship with God. Just get out there in FS, that's their answer for every single thing! Just read our literature, go to our meetings and get out in FS, that all you need.
This is what started my fade. As I saw my parents getting older, I found there was less and less interest in their welfare. Oh yes, maybe once a year the WT would publish an article about assisting the elderly, but everything else, particularly on the service meeting, was about our ministry. I particularly remember one friend of my bed-ridden mom who told me she would get over to see her but she had to pioneer next month. I thought, "Why couldn't she make visiting my mother part of her pioneer service?" I was also reprimanded by two elders for spending too much time with her when I should be out finding people who had no "hope." I should have told them my mother (and my father) sat in their home "hoping" that someone would come to visit.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Hi there - when I first read the book, I was afraid to tell my husband - for a different reason. He had already been slowly fading for his own reasons, and I was afraid that when he found out about all the things that went on in Bethel and the hypocrisy of the WT teachings, he would get so livid that he would get himself disfellowshipped. But one day he found the book that I had been reading, and we began some long long quiet discussions.
Later we talked to our two adult sons and our daughter-in-law, and we were surprised at how easy it was to convince them that things were wrong in the organization. Then I made the mistake of talking to our daughter and son-in-law. Long story short--she won't have anything to do with anybody in our family--hasn't talked to me or anyone in our family for almost five years. And she only lives 10 miles away! None of us are DF'd.
You just don't know how people will react. I grieve every day about our daughter but am so thankful that the rest of our family is intact.
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Religion is a racket and a snare! ....uuuuhmmmmm
by justmom inremember when the wtbs shouted those words?
ooh and "millions now living will never die?"...
using sandwich signs, loud speakers on top of autos and yes they even picketed this.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Somebody posted not long ago (as I remember it):
"Religion is a snare the Devil uses to lead people away from God."
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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Bonnie_Clyde
The sad fact is that it has the opposite effect, including sucide so it cannot be divinely inspired - as that law is based on what is the loving thing to do.
A brother in our area was driven to suicide because his family turned against him, and he wasn't even disfellowshipped. This guy had three brothers, and all of them told him that they wouldn't have anything more to do with him if he didn't start coming back to the KH. He was also losing his house, and he asked his parents if he could stay with them for awhile until he got back on his feet. They told him that his wife could come to stay with them, but he could not.
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A New Servant's Position ???
by Bonnie_Clyde ina brother in a distant congregation tells us that in his congregation it was announced the society has appointed a brother as some sort of overseer of public talks.
not clear if it was all talks or just the public talk.
he understood it to mean all public talks in the circuit.
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Bonnie_Clyde
You missed the point. We just talked to the brother to verify. This elder's duties are to monitor all talks including the Ministry School, to make sure that the material was being followed exactly as it was assigned. It caused quite a buzz in the congregation. This had nothing to do with the Public Talk Coordinator.
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A New Servant's Position ???
by Bonnie_Clyde ina brother in a distant congregation tells us that in his congregation it was announced the society has appointed a brother as some sort of overseer of public talks.
not clear if it was all talks or just the public talk.
he understood it to mean all public talks in the circuit.
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Bonnie_Clyde
A brother in a distant congregation tells us that in his congregation it was announced the Society has appointed a brother as some sort of overseer of public talks. Not clear if it was all talks or just the public talk. He understood it to mean all public talks in the circuit. Kind of like an “Inspector General” position. Obviously this is a new position because an extensive letter was read from the Society appointing this brother in charge.
I would appreciate if anybody has heard anything about this and can expand on what little information we have.