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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

especially for the first sister they talk about!.

Bonnie_Clyde

This thread really hit home with me. When I pioneered it was 100 hours per month and 1200 hours per year...no allowance for vacation. I got married, and was pregnant with my first child. Tried my best to continue pioneering while working part-time, but we were down to one car, and my husband needed it for my work. Still, with help from other publishers, I managed to get a lot of hours in...probably 70 or 80. Back then, we reported all of our service directly to headquarters, so the 3rd month that I was behind I wrote a letter explaining my situation. I never heard back from them. But one mid-week meeting a letter was read from the platform that Bonnie was removed from the pioneer ranks. There was no mention of recognition for the 2-1/2 years I spent slaving for them. To top it off, a "special" pioneer sister who was visiting came up to me to tell me that in her home congregation there was a young married couple who had a baby, and they were both still pioneering. Fine example! I didn't know what to say.

Too bad that it took me over 30 years to leave.

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Need WT article on being a homecoming queen

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i remember an article many years ago...i think early 60's or even in the 50's.

it may have been questions from the readers.

i ask because our granddaughter has been selected to be on the homecoming court.

Bonnie_Clyde

Cha Ching - thank you for the article. Actually our granddaughter was elected to the homecoming court (it was almost unanimous). Maybe she'll make queen when she is a senior.

3rd Gen - I can't imagine how embarrassing that must have been for you. I often think of what I missed when I was in high school - wanted to sing in the choir or play in the orchestra but was worried about Christmas or patriotic songs. Never made it to a football game because they were on Friday nights, and our meetings were on Fridays back in those days. Didn't go to the senior prom either.

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Need WT article on being a homecoming queen

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i remember an article many years ago...i think early 60's or even in the 50's.

it may have been questions from the readers.

i ask because our granddaughter has been selected to be on the homecoming court.

Bonnie_Clyde

I remember an article many years ago...I think early 60's or even in the 50's. It may have been Questions from the Readers. I ask because our granddaughter has been selected to be on the homecoming court.

It really doesn't matter to us because her parents are no longer witnesses either, but wonder if the other grandparents who are still in will make a fuss. Clyde and I and her parents are very proud of her.

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JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

by Zoos in

"thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

Bonnie_Clyde

"Clyde and I recently upgraded our Powers of Attorney and our Living Trust. We included a statement that we would accept a blood transfusion…only if was necessary to save our life. We found out later that the office administrator is a witness, and is married to an elder in the congregation that we used to attend…we still live in the territory. My last meeting was in 2006…Clyde’s last meeting was about 2001. What do you think the chances are that this woman will reveal our decision to the elders? Or have we been away long enough where they will leave us alone? I expressed my concern to the attorney, but she assured me that would not be a problem because the witness had signed a statement of confidentiality when she was hired. I know that witnesses are not good at privacy."

I think this would be a judicial matter if we were still active, but because we have been gone so long, maybe not. But I know that information like this can be leaked, and I certainly wouldn't want it to get back to our daughter. She would remember that several years ago I took a firm stand against a blood transfusion when I was having surgery. We are also still friendly with a few witnesses in the area.

I was surprised last week when I got a voicemail from my attorney that she just left the firm she was working for and going back where she used to work, and would we want to continue to use her services? I answered, of course, we would (we aren't finished yet)..then it occurred to me that her reason for leaving might have something to do with the JW employee. I'm afraid to ask.

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JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

by Zoos in

"thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

Bonnie_Clyde

Clyde and I recently upgraded our Powers of Attorney and our Living Trust. We included a statement that we would accept a blood transfusion…only if was necessary to save our life. We found out later that the office administrator is a witness, and is married to an elder in the congregation that we used to attend…we still live in the territory. My last meeting was in 2006…Clyde’s last meeting was about 2001. What do you think the chances are that this woman will reveal our decision to the elders? Or have we been away long enough where they will leave us alone? I expressed my concern to the attorney, but she assured me that would not be a problem because the witness had signed a statement of confidentiality when she was hired. I know that witnesses are not good at privacy.

I remember the article in the WT that MrRoboto mentioned. I think it was in the 1980’s. Hope someone will come up with it.

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

Bonnie_Clyde

I read an article in the WT maybe 30 years ago that said that, when Jesus said "return your sword to it's place", that this was not referring to self-defense. I believe it even mentioned the scripture at Exodus 22:2: "If a thief should be found in the act of breaking I and he does get struck and die, there is no bloodguilt for him." How things have changed

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Just heard that the WT sent money to help brothers in Russia

by Bonnie_Clyde in

clyde and i had lunch with a friend who attended the assembly with his wife.

he told us that he was sure he heard that the wt had sent money to russia to help the brothers financially.

i told him that i heard the opposite....that they are directing witnesses to meet in private homes and set up a donation jar for the sole purpose of sending money to the wt, giving explicit instructions on how to transmit the funds.

Bonnie_Clyde

Clyde and I had lunch with a friend who attended the assembly with his wife. He told us that he was sure he heard that the WT had sent money to Russia to help the brothers financially. I told him that I heard the opposite....that they are directing witnesses to meet in private homes and set up a donation jar for the sole purpose of sending money to the WT, giving explicit instructions on how to transmit the funds.

Bonnie

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How many remember the 1969 8 day convention?

by seek2find in

anybody remember the 8 day 1969 international convention.

i was at the braves stadium in atlanta all 8 days with a sunburn and then wet clothes after the rain storms.

if you were there (not necessarily in atlanta) do you remember anything about it?

Bonnie_Clyde

"If there is a real burning hell, back in 1969 in Atlanta"

Clyde and I were in our 20's and we had our 2-year old boy with us. Mid-week Clyde got sick, it was so hot and humid. He had to stay back at the hotel for the air-conditioning, but dutifully I took our son to the assembly. FINALLY, Sunday morning Clyde said, "We are leaving!" I was shocked as I felt it was our duty to stay for the entire week. But we left and drove up into the mountains of North Carolina, and I can't describe the relief. Clyde almost immediately got better with the cooler mountain air. We've talked about that miserable assembly for years.

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have you noticed how the main Jw preaching message has changed?

by nowwhat? in

years ago it was all about armageddon and getting out of babylon the great.

then with the draw close to jehovah and is there a creator that care about you.

it was all about building a relationship with jehovah.

Bonnie_Clyde

They still talk about Armageddon but only to themselves, don't want to tell the public because they want to keep the message positive. I watched a TV show that was about several religions that teach Armageddon, and JW's were not mentioned.

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$25,000 for one-day assembly in our area

by Bonnie_Clyde in

they started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000.

the speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the atm machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

after the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards.

Bonnie_Clyde

They started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000. The speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the ATM machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite. After the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards. Later in the car, even his hard-core JW wife mentioned that she wondered how it cost that much for a one-day assembly in a building that was fully paid for.

Bonnie_Clyde

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