Posts by AnnOMaly

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BOE 2014-06-09 Adjusted approval and financing process to accelerate Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction

by WatchTower87 in

2014-06-09 adjusted approval and financing process to accelerate kingdom hall and assembly hall construction.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

AnnOMaly

If a repair or minor renovation is needed, the body(ies) of elders should explain the need to
the congregation(s) and give the publishers the opportunity to contribute for the expense locally. If a
Kingdom Hall is used by more than one congregation and if the combined bodies of elders believe
there is a need, an additional amount (that is, in addition to the amount described in the previous
paragraph) equaling no more than three months of the operating committee’s average expenses may
be maintained by the operating committee for the purpose of keeping the existing facilities in good
repair. A similar guideline could be applied by a congregation not sharing a Kingdom Hall. In order
to obtain funding for more significant projects, please seek assistance from your Local
Design/Construction Department (LDC).

Wait a minute. The cong. has just given away most of its 'rainy day' savings to Mother. Suddenly something needs fixing. So, after the elders explain the need to the brothers, they ask them for more donations to cover that need. "But we had already saved the money," families will be thinking, "and it was given away. **** off! Get Mother to fund it."

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BOE 2014-06-09 Adjusted approval and financing process to accelerate Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction

by WatchTower87 in

2014-06-09 adjusted approval and financing process to accelerate kingdom hall and assembly hall construction.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

AnnOMaly

Thanks!

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The Ravings of Trolls Distracts FOCUS From Real Watchtower Scandals

by cofty in

my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.

this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.

it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.

AnnOMaly

(Am I the only one who reads Focus's posts and pictures Jeffrey Goines?)

Anyway, no, I was never in contact with either Obed or Big Ray. I just posted on their boards sometimes. I'm sure with the skills you indicate you have, you could tap deep into the web and sniff them out if you wanted.

Ann (of the 'that's your lot' class)

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The Ravings of Trolls Distracts FOCUS From Real Watchtower Scandals

by cofty in

my thread was inspired by gentledawn's insightful comment about the effect the events in wales had on her jw husband.... hope any lurkers out there can filter out the signal (storys and experiences like this) to noise (the current trolls running amok on the forums) ratios.

this the problem with those who focus on outrageous fantasies about the watchtower.

it distracts from the real issues that need to be highlighted.. what happened in wales was for real.

AnnOMaly

Witnet and Big Ray's WOL! Wow.

Ann (of the 'gonna search my old hard drive' class)

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Assembly Streaming videos

by sp74bb in

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video of convention online for download .

the english international convention program presented in east rutherford from june.

20 to 22, 2014, will be available for viewing beginning friday, june 27, 2014. the spanish international.

AnnOMaly

Thanks!

Cross-referencing: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/280669/1/2014-Convention-Audio-available#.U7V8AJRdXYk

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How long have you known TTATT and continued to participate?

by LostGeneration in

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i continue to be stunned by posters reporting on the convention, lamenting the convention, complaining about going in serve-us and meetings, and yet continuing to participate in these activities.. a simple question.

how long have you done these things, fully knowing it is absolute bullshit?.

i couldn't handle it for more than six months before i basically outed myself.

AnnOMaly

LG, yes it's a loooong time! 2nd and 3rd generation in an area where we have roots - harder. In the end, I was the one trying to hurry along our fade, but hubby was (for all sorts of understandable reasons) too afraid/cautious to take the next steps. The last years were a tremendous strain on us as a family. Then a set of circumstances presented itself - a hole in the fence, as it were - and I knew it was now or never. So we took a deep breath and ran for it.

Very perplexing for our long-time acquaintances at the cong. The ever-present elephant is ignored by most (apart from 'we miss you'). The one family member who we knew would take it hardest is acclimatizing. I understand the attraction of cutting one's losses and having closure as we still have to be careful and anxiously look over our shoulder at times but, overall, we are much happier, much more relaxed, and for the moment (for as long as possible) we have normal, cordial relationships with JW family.

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IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satans Rule"

by AnnOMaly in

a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

AnnOMaly

Apognophos - Yes. Exactly! LOL.

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How long have you known TTATT and continued to participate?

by LostGeneration in

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friends

i continue to be stunned by posters reporting on the convention, lamenting the convention, complaining about going in serve-us and meetings, and yet continuing to participate in these activities.. a simple question.

how long have you done these things, fully knowing it is absolute bullshit?.

i couldn't handle it for more than six months before i basically outed myself.

AnnOMaly

Hubby about 20 years. Me about 10 years. Children are out too now. The "touching loyalty and devotion" was to our JW families, not the Org. - a bigger picture to be considered; lots of patience and little steps required. There comes a tipping point, however, when it really is time to go, which is different for everyone.

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Entertainment for International Delegates

by Listener in

bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

AnnOMaly

A DRUM KIT? In the Kingdom Hall?

Songs from Satan's world being sung and danced to? In God's house of worship?

I'm surprised fire didn't come down from heaven and devour them!

*** w10 5/1 p. 31 What is a Kingdom Hall? ***

"So the name Kingdom Hall, which was coined in the 1930’s, appropriately describes the purpose of these buildings—to promote true worship and serve as a hub for the preaching of the “good news of the kingdom.” (Matthew 24:14) Thus, Kingdom Halls are not used for social or commercial activities."

*** w91 12/1 p. 19 par. 13 Practicing Pure Religion for Survival ***

"Jehovah’s Witnesses respect their Kingdom Halls and larger Assembly Halls as places dedicated to Jehovah’s worship. Unlike many churches of Christendom, Kingdom Halls are not social clubs."

Having said that, it was a really nicely-made, souvenir video (OK I didn't watch the whole thing but skipped parts) and it was good to see a little creativity (and there was only a little but hey, it's a typical cong.) and spontaneity, shaking off some inhibitions, displaying more of their natural personality. They need more of those kinds of gatherings at the KH, imho.

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"It's not religious..." Wait... What???

by dynamiterose77 in

my friend, mike works as a massage therapist, and there is a woman at the shop that is super-jw-woman and is constantly hounding him with things.. today, he's messaging me and he tells me that she was trying to push a brochure or something on him.

he said he'd really rather not read a religious pamphlet.. so... she says, "it's not religious... it's from god.".

isn't that kinda what religious means?

AnnOMaly

"No, no, we're not here to convert you. You can only convert yourself. [Smile]" That was one line we had.

After the donation arrangement came in, and we came across 'No salespersons or canvassers' signs:

Householder: "What are you selling?"

Me: "We're not selling anything. We've come to talk to you about the Bible's hope for the future."

Often that made the householder relax a little.

Then one day a man answered with: "Yes you are trying to sell me something."

Me: [Laughing] "No we're not, we're only here to t... ."

Man, cutting me off: "You are trying to sell me a religion."

Me: *ding* "Um, well, um ... " Damn. He's right.

And there's the one where we'd try to reassure challenging householders that we were very interested in truth and if the truth could be found elsewhere, we would follow it (then we proceeded to reject any home-truths the householder tried to give us).

The thing is, we really believed what we were saying. I wasn't lying when I said those things. Deluding myself (and consequently the householder), yes!