Posts by AnnOMaly

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"The Cyrus Cylinder"

by Doug Mason in

i suspect that i am the last one here who has read the book: the cyrus cylinder: the king of persias proclamation from ancient babylon, edited by irving finkel; published by i. b. tauris, 2013; 144 pages.. so i simply wish to record my deep admiration for the book.

it explains and analyses the cylinders text as well as providing a sympathetic account of the people involved with its ancient and modern history.

(chapter 1: the babylonian perspective; chapter 2: discovery; chapter 5: a persian perspective.

AnnOMaly

opus: http://www.livius.org/ct-cz/cyrus_I/babylon05.html

Thanks Doug. Only read bits of it, but I found it interesting about the suggestion that burial chambers found in Ketef Hinnom (Jerusalem) were still being used after 587/6 BCE during the exile. It sparked my wanting more info about it and so, rooting around the 'net, I saw someone else contend that the chambers were where only the higher classes were buried. Seeing as only the poor were left in the land, so the argument went, these chambers couldn't have been used until after the exile when the higher status Jews returned. There was a counter-argument to that too. Anyway, I learned something new :-)

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My DF'd father going in for cancer surgery

by PaintedToeNail in

jw
friends

in january or february of this year, my father was df'd for viewing pornography.

he was diagnosed with a rare-ish lung cancer in august, it doesn't have good recovery odds.

he had been struggling with a porn problem for awhile, asking the 'brothers' for help.

AnnOMaly

I'm very sorry to hear of your dad's illness and situation. I hope a new support network can be found to help him through this (are there charitable groups associated with the hospital?). Perhaps your brother can print out some of the FB messages so he can read them without sitting up?

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SHOCKING elder's talk: "..when we are baptized we abdicate all responsibility to think for ourselves.."

by yadda yadda 2 in

i found this recorded elder's talk (presumably genuine) quite disturbing in how he states that in order to maintain unity, jw's have given up thinking for themselves and passed over their thinking ability to the governing body.. "when you're baptized, your thinking is not your own anymore...your thinking is done for you...we carry out to the letter everything the society tells us to do..." .

his concluding statement "stop thinking for yourselves!".

there's the usual reference to the korah and those who challenged moses, but "you in the congregation are safe as long as you don't speak out against the elders and jehovah's organisation...".

AnnOMaly

No background noise, as Listener said. Too blatant, 'in your face.' Lingo was off for a elder. One of the give-aways was mentioning Ray Franz and CoC by name and title. Only long-timers (or 'apostates') would recognize the name, and this 'talk' was produced in the clean digital, rather than fuzzy analogue, era.

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I still love Kingdom Melodies.

by POs Son in

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friends

ok, at the risk of getting flamed, i have been out for over 20 years, and still love kingdom melodies.

i remember them for the good times, the conventions and assemblies, hearing the orchestral versions, imagining the orchestra playing.

some pieces were really nice.

AnnOMaly

I still like a lot of the Kingdom Songs from the pinky-purple and brown books (but the new one - ugh).

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"I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

by 4thgen in

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friends

have you ever heard that statement?

i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.

they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.

AnnOMaly

To those that trot out "I don't care if its teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life":

(John 4:24) . . .God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” Do you think the God of Truth would approve of being worshipped with falsehood?

If you really believe that a religion's teachings do not have to be true - just so long as you have a nice, moral life - why the hell do you criticize other churches?

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ALERT! - 144,000 is about to CHANGE!

by nicolaou in

any moment now .

.

AnnOMaly

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1967 - Your Word is a Lamp to My Foot

by naeuca in

hi,.

would anyone happen to have a pdf copy of this book please.

many thanks in advance.

AnnOMaly

Here ya go

https://ia600304.us.archive.org/27/items/WatchtowerLibrary/manuals/1967_yl_E.pdf

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WOW. Sorry Its been so Long! Update:After i declined the shep call

by Jon Preston in

i dont know if anyone forgot me or remembered.

but lets start where i left off.

sooo.

AnnOMaly

Now weve got sisters textng my wife asking why we would help our grandma out instead of meetings.

You gotta be kidding me. Rude and skewed. I don't remember ones at our hall being so intrusive when we were helping elderly relatives and missing meetings to do so. I hope your wife has been texting them back telling them she owes them no explanation and to mind their own damn business.

Oh, and as long as you show up at the odd meeting, it gives out a message that you still believe it's the 'truth' and it reminds everyone of your existence, hence the renewed attention. The memory of you is shoved to the back of people's minds if you don't attend.

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strange experience at the RC- was it segregation?

by tornapart in

i went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).

it was at a new venue.

a large arena usually putting on music concerts.

AnnOMaly

Not necessarily segregation but a clip-board attendant throwing his weight about. I'd like to think my response would have been (always easier to think of in hindsight):

"Brother, there are no Asian brothers and sisters here at the moment. We'll finish our sandwiches. We won't be long. If the area fills up and we are in the way, we will move." Big smile. Eyes communicate, 'You want me to move now? Just try it, buster.'

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Another bible contradiction about Jesus being king or what???

by Crazyguy in

the lies of the org continue, i was reading revelation and i came accross rev 19:6 in their bible and its states "and i heard a loud voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders.

they said: praise jah, you people, because jehovah our god, the almighty has begun to rule as king.

" then my first thought, what does it acctually say in their greek interlinear because at rev.

AnnOMaly

... the jws bible and interlinear implys that Jesus was not king when the bible writers wrote the bible. They say that revelations says this is a future event and insert the phrase " begins to rule" and ignores rev.1:5 altogether. I have discovered the lie and have reported it here. The bible is really saying he is ruling or reigning, not in the future from when the bible writer's wrote it but now in the time of the bible writers.

You might also want to explore the 'already but not yet' idea - where the kingdom is and has been since the first century, but is not yet fully consummated. (JWs' version is, of course, that the kingdom was set up in 1914 but still hasn't 'come' in its fullest sense and won't until the Millennium starts.)

Question: "What is inaugurated eschatology?"

Answer: Inaugurated eschatology is a certain scheme of eschatology—the study of the latter days or the end times. Inaugurated eschatology basically says that the kingdom of God, as prophesied in Isaiah 35 , began at the first coming of Jesus and is now here, although it will not be fully consummated until His second coming. Inaugurated eschatology is also sometimes referred to as a “partially realized eschatology” and is associated with the “already but not yet” concept.