Posts by AnnOMaly

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I have a question about a quote from Ray Franz

by Truth and Justice in

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hi to the group!.

i have a question about a quote that ray franz made, and i am quoting him, his quote is as follows: page 283 of "crisis of conscience" top of the page:.

fred was saying - in his comments, he stated that some were questioning the society's position (set forth in a recent watchtower) that jesus christ is the mediator only for the "anointed" ones and not for the other millions of jehovah's witnesses.

AnnOMaly

My question is do they still believe this way?

It hasn't been rescinded.

*** w79 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
● Is Jesus the “mediator” only for anointed Christians?
... At a time when God was selecting those to be taken into that new covenant, the apostle Paul wrote that Christ was the “one mediator between God and men.” (1 Tim. 2:5) Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” in the same way he did the other five times, which occurred before the writing of 1 Timothy 2:5, referring to those then being taken into the new covenant for which Christ is “mediator.” So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the “mediator” only for anointed Christians.

*** w89 12/15 p. 30 Do You Remember? ***

In what sense does Paul use the term “mediator” when referring to Jesus at 1 Timothy 2:5, 6?

In this text, Paul uses the Greek word me·si′tes for “mediator,” which term has a legal significance, so he is not using this word in the broad sense common in many languages. Hence, Paul is not saying that Jesus is Mediator between God and all mankind. Rather, he is referring to Christ as legal Mediator of the new covenant, which laid the basis for Christ’s anointed followers to share with him in his heavenly Kingdom. (2 Corinthians 5:1, 5; Ephesians 1:13, 14; Hebrews 8:7-13)—8/15, pages 30, 31.

*** w08 12/15 pp. 13-14 pars. 12-14 Appreciate Jesus’ Unique Role in God’s Purpose ***

The original-language word translated “mediator” is a legal term. It refers to Jesus as a legal Mediator (or, in a sense, an attorney) of the new covenant that made possible the birth of a new nation, “the Israel of God.” (Gal. 6:16) This nation is composed of spirit-anointed Christians, who form a heavenly “royal priesthood.” (1 Pet. 2:9; Ex. 19:6) The Law covenant, with Moses as mediator, was not able to produce a nation like that.

[...]

What about those who are not in the new covenant, those who hope to live forever on earth, not in heaven? While not participants in the new covenant, these are beneficiaries of it. They receive forgiveness of their sins and are declared righteous as God’s friends. (Jas. 2:23; 1 John 2:1, 2) Whether we have a heavenly hope or an earthly hope, each one of us has good reason to appreciate Jesus’ role as the Mediator of the new covenant.

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Forum shuns me!

by stillin in

the forum has signed me off twice.

glad i got the sign in thing worked out!

also, my pm alert says there is mail for me but there isn't.. simon, are you down under?

AnnOMaly

Ah thanks stillin. It went to -3 and then I clicked on your message and it went back to -4. LOL

I'm not bothered really. It's one of those funny glitches that'll get fixed eventually (as Apo said).

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Christmas Beliefs!

by J-DUBBED in

do jehova wingnuts believe jesus birthday isn't dec 25?

or do they just plain and simple not believe in any birthday?.

AnnOMaly

One of the possible reasons why December 25th was chosen as Christ's birth was that some early Christians thought Jesus was conceived on March 25th - March, Spring, new life, God created the world then, day of a prophet's conception would be the day of his death (Jesus' conception day = his crucifixion day) - all sorts of symbolisms.

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New Forum Layout

by Awake at last in

i suffer from depression and have also been diagnosed with asperger's syndrome, so it is not surprising that about 20 minutes ago i was feeling very depressed about the new look of my favourite ex jw forum, that is, this one.

i have been living under a rock obviously because i had no idea any change was about to happen.. now i am beginning to understand how it works, everything is ok or soon will be.

i like the like button and have already used it once.. now you understand why i left the borg.

AnnOMaly

Really? The fact that someone joined on April twenty fifth and not April twenty third is relevant how?

Even a month would help. How is a specific date relevant, you ask.

Our journeys and posting histories are marked by the passage of time; by specific events in Watchtowerland and in our lives - a bit like having a date stamp on your photos, or by marking birthdays and anniversaries on a particular day. It's nice to note the day rather than the approximate month or year.
Specific dates provide context to what was said and why it was said; sometimes even to what prompted someone to join; whether the person joined and then left it a few weeks before plucking up the courage to post. All valuable little insights into what makes somebody tick.
Dates indicate how lively and intense a debate was.
Our memories fade. Dates help in locating past posts and threads among the thousands on here. E.g. If there's a thread or post I'm looking for from '10 years ago' and there are so many hundreds of threads and thousands of posts from '10 years ago,' I could locate it faster if it was narrowed down to month or day, or if I knew it was from around the time of a convention, an AGM, a noteworthy news event, or a crazy WT article being published.

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Forum shuns me!

by stillin in

the forum has signed me off twice.

glad i got the sign in thing worked out!

also, my pm alert says there is mail for me but there isn't.. simon, are you down under?

AnnOMaly

I thought I'd try that good idea, Kate. Now my inbox shows '-4' - yes, MINUS 4!

:D

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Sign-in fix for IE users

by Simon in

i think i finally tracked down the bug that was affecting ie users - you should now be able to sign in and use the site.

i've only had chance to test with ie 11 but it should work with ie 10 as well, i'm not sure about ie 9 and ie 8 or older is doubtful.. fingers crossed we get some replies from ie'ers.

note: there may still be other issues but the first and biggest hurdle is getting signed on..

AnnOMaly

there is no chance of attempting to sign in using Opera mini.

Same here. No menu for signing in is available, nor 'Search,' nor any button on the top toolbar. Nor can I opt to cut out the thread previews like on a computer (Chrome). My phone's on Opera Mini 8 now (I had mistakenly said '5' on the other thread).

With JWN and Opera Mini 4, I could sign in and see all the sections. I couldn't post, but at least I could easily browse and read.

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Forum shuns me!

by stillin in

the forum has signed me off twice.

glad i got the sign in thing worked out!

also, my pm alert says there is mail for me but there isn't.. simon, are you down under?

AnnOMaly

My PM alert permanently shows 1 unread too.

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New Forum Layout

by Awake at last in

i suffer from depression and have also been diagnosed with asperger's syndrome, so it is not surprising that about 20 minutes ago i was feeling very depressed about the new look of my favourite ex jw forum, that is, this one.

i have been living under a rock obviously because i had no idea any change was about to happen.. now i am beginning to understand how it works, everything is ok or soon will be.

i like the like button and have already used it once.. now you understand why i left the borg.

AnnOMaly

If you hover over the posters avatar you get their join date and post counts appear as a popup

I can't see a join date. Just a vague 'so many years/days ago.' It would be nice to have the specific dates back - on the posts too one day.

And thanks for the 'quote' button.

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Please post new forum feedback or questions here

by Simon in

well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

AnnOMaly

It's in the magic wand section

^ Re: 'quote' button. Ah, thank you.

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Please post new forum feedback or questions here

by Simon in

well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.

AnnOMaly

:) I like the look of it.

I like that, for the first time since joining, I've been able to update my email address and, for the first time in almost as many years, I can change my avatar.

My basic phone and its Opera Mini browser cannot cope as well with the new site, even with updating to Opera Mini 5 today. JWN was always 'read only' for me on there, but at least it was straight-forward to navigate around and most of the links worked. The 'menu' button at the top of the (mobile) page does nothing so I can't sign in on my phone any more or opt to view active topics. Maybe I can figure out a work-around.

What would be handy

It would be nice to have people's join dates and posting dates displayed again. '5 years ago,' 'a day ago' - too vague on its own.

I can't see a 'quote' button in the 'reply' box.