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  Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

  having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

  1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

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  Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

  having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

  1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

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  It would be bad enough if only 2% would do it.
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  Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

  having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

  1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

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  Sorry, DD - just finding the reactions disturbing. I'd be interested to know how many responded, how many expressed similar sentiments to those above, and how many (or if anyone) said they would not take the pill. I'm interested because of overhearing a similar conversation many years ago (when I was a wide-eyed, naïve dub) between some elders.
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  Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

  having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

  1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

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  Re: DD's post #3942

  These are real JWs' comments, right? You're not yanking our chains?
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  Any Amateur Astronomers Out There?

  by cofty in

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  i have recently revived my interest in the night sky.

  there are a lot of great sights you can identify with just a pair of binoculars.

  i am currently relearning how to navigate my way round all the constellations and find some of the best objects.. i live out in the country so we get almost total darkness right outside my front door.

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  AnnOMaly

  What prologos said. The astro-heads in my local amateur astronomical society recommend going to a few sky-watching events and using their telescopes first before buying one. You can pick their brains and get ideas about which telescope is suitable for the kind of observing you want to do. Also, they are changing their equipment all the time, selling their unwanted scopes, so you might get a bargain from them.
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  Witnesses: Why The 1/19/14 WT Lesson Is Dangerous

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's watchtower lesson touched on the history of hezekiah's reign, and then made a surprising modern-day application.

  having used my time before the meeting to research the underlying material instead of highlighting my magazine, i personally found this to be an upsetting study, and decided to put this warning here in the hopes that some active witnesses read it.. the most important thing i want to say to you is that the actual flow of events in this bible account were severely misrepresented, and that there are some disturbing implications in the distortions that were made.

  1. hezekiah's father ahaz makes himself a vassal to assyria out of fear of their overwhelming might (2 kings 16:7, 8).. 2. upon becoming king, hezekiah rebels against assyria (2 kings 18:7).

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  AnnOMaly

  Excellent critique, Apognophos! It's going to be useful for when this comes up in discussion with the JWs I know.

  A couple of quibbles:

  2. Upon becoming king, Hezekiah rebels against Assyria (2 Kings 18:7). Being that they are a vassal state left to rule themselves, the only conceivable way to rebel is to stop paying tribute.

  3. It is at this point that the Assyrians attack (2 Kings 18:13)... because they were provoked by Hezekiah.

  As you say, Hezekiah's rebellion has been placed early in his reign. It's followed by the account of Assyria's attack on Samaria in Hezekiah's 4th year. However, it's only in Hezekiah's 14th year that Assyria attacks Judah. Either it wasn't a serious rebellion up to that point or the Assyrians weren't too bothered (unlikely) or Hezekiah only plucked up the courage to rebel later in his reign. What is clear: something ticked off the Assyrians in that 14th year, i.e. Judah switching allegiance (2 Ki. 18:19f.).

  5. Hezekiah then begs for forgiveness from Assyria, and is fined a certain amount of gold and silver. To make the payment, he gives all of the silver in the temple to Sennacherib, as well as lots of gold. Where does he get the gold? By stripping it off the posts at the entrance to the temple! (2 Kings 18:14-16)

  [Later comment] Next, he pays Sennacherib to leave him alone by pillaging God's house of everything shiny, while apparently leaving his own treasure-house alone.

  He took silver from his own treasure house too.

  (2 Kings 18:15, 16) Therefore Hez·e·ki′ah gave all the silver that was to be found at the house of Jehovah and in the treasures of the king’s house. At that time Hez·e·ki′ah cut off the doors of the temple of Jehovah and the doorposts that Hez·e·ki′ah the king of Judah had overlaid and then gave them to the king of As·syr′i·a.
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  How do Jehovah's Witnesses get from 1914 to 1919?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys and gals,.

  i have written an article that explains how the watchtower society gets from 607 bce to 1914 (http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/faqs/why-is-1914-important/) but i need some input so that i can write an article on how they get from 1914 to (via 1918) 1919.. are we talking about ezra, 1:2-4 when the persian king cyrus allows the israelites to go and rebuild the temple 3 and a half years after exiling them?

  if so, how has the watchtower used this passage to get to 1919??.

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  It was to do with the parallel with Jesus' life and ministry. It's an old idea even though the quote below is recent.

  Revelation Climax (revised version) chap. 6 p. 32 [Box] Unlocking a Sacred Secret

  A Time of Testing and Judging

  Jesus was baptized and anointed as King-Designate at the Jordan River about October 29 C.E. Three and a half years later, in 33 C.E., he came to Jerusalem’s temple and threw out those who were making it a cave of robbers. There appears to be a parallel to this in the three-and-a-half-year period from Jesus’ enthronement in the heavens in October 1914 until his coming to inspect professed Christians as judgment began with the house of God. (Matthew 21:12, 13; 1 Peter 4:17)
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  Any Amateur Astronomers Out There?

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i have recently revived my interest in the night sky.

  there are a lot of great sights you can identify with just a pair of binoculars.

  i am currently relearning how to navigate my way round all the constellations and find some of the best objects.. i live out in the country so we get almost total darkness right outside my front door.

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  AnnOMaly

  Your history and astronomical events are still off Ann, both literally and figuratively.

  Only 3 days off. I should have said 10 discrepancy by the 16th century.

  For example I was born on 7 Jan. under the Julian calander and Dec. 25 on the Gregorian and Jewish.

  Wrong way round, and I repeat: Gregorian is not equivalent to Jewish
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  OMFG Dinosaurs and Noah

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. friends

  just fell off my chair whilst listening to the bible "highlights".

  someone has actually just said that the flood account actually helps inform scientists on matters that perplex them.

  for example for decades they have wondered how the dinosaurs all disappeared but if they looked at the account of the flood then they would see the answer.

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  Any Amateur Astronomers Out There?

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i have recently revived my interest in the night sky.

  there are a lot of great sights you can identify with just a pair of binoculars.

  i am currently relearning how to navigate my way round all the constellations and find some of the best objects.. i live out in the country so we get almost total darkness right outside my front door.

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  AnnOMaly

  Jack C, both Julian and Gregorian calendars are solar-based. The Julian one was slightly longer on average than the mean solar year (365.25 days long instead of 365.24 days) which caused an eventual 13 day discrepancy with the equinoxes and solstices by the 16th century. The Gregorian calendar reset the 'clock,' so to speak, and tweaked the leap year rule to increase accuracy. We use the Gregorian calendar today.

  The Gregorian calendar does not follow the Jewish calendar as the latter is lunar-based (actually luni-solar). It lags behind the solar year every year by 11 days. It has to be brought back into sync with the seasons every 3 years or so by adding in a leap month.