In another corner of the internet someone stated that Witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "Gog of Magog" will start the great tribulation. Can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?
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"No more than 40 years"
by dynamiterose77 inin another corner of the internet someone stated that witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "gog of magog" will start the great tribulation.
can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?.
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Artists
by Incognigo Montoya inas a child i naturally inherited an interest in art, drawing and painting to be specific.
being a jw, the paintings and drawings in the literature always caught my eye and piqued my interest.
as i got older, and bettered my artistic abilities, i was often encouraged to put bethel as a goal, though it was family friends more so than my parents who suggested that i should pursue a bethel career, using my artistic skills.
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dynamiterose77
BIG HUGS FELLOW ARTIST!!
I feel like we had some similar experiences in regards to the whole "Illustrating for the Watchtower" bit. I thought it would be cool at one point, but eventually things took a different turn. Went to art college, no one wanted me around them at the hall...
I'm def. not as recognized as you seem to be. I've done local art shows and people say they love my work, but it hasn't translated to anything other than what it has been.
One thing I will say... when it seemed my life was crumbling... art was the one thing I had that would never leave me. It saved me more than anything else ever could.
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Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?
by Earthmeasured insorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.
im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.
i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.
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dynamiterose77
Pretty sure this is a troll... but, hey, devils advocate and I believe in refuting with facts in case someone else is wondering and not sure. I took ACTUAL astronomy classes, and even the most basic lesson shows that the earth is round (spheroid) . First, by the fact that the northern and southern hemispheres see different constellations. If the earth were flat, everyone regardless of where they live on the planet would see the same constellations at the same time. We did plenty of assignments that were nothing more than documenting the position of the sun where it set every day for a month... documenting constellations as time progressed through the year. If we were on a flat surface, none of that would be possible.
Plus the time zones... plus how shadows work... etc etc...
Then there is the little fact of how gravity works, and gravity on a flat surface would place the center of mass at the center of the disc and pull everything to it... but flat-earthers don't believe in gravity either...
Here are better explanations than I could do of very simple observations. https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round#page-15
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Cart witnessing
by Phoebe innot sure if anyone has posted this before but it's just been put on youtube so i guess it's okay to show you??
if not, please delete it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdusnlvjm-k.
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Is this a meeting??? People in jeans? Is that a new thing? or was this some after hours type thing. And when did skits start???? It reminds me of Justin Timberlake on SNL when he's a mascot for various places...
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Capitalizing names
by john.prestor injust a random thought here but does anyone else notice than when the name "elder" or "circuit overseer" appears in the organization's magazines and books they're always lower case even though they're proper nouns and should be elder and circuit overseer... but branch committee member, governing body helper, governing body member, they get to be capitalized.
another subtle indication of how the governing body and other high-ranking elites see themselves, i think.
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I never noticed that... but it makes sense. This is what marketing departments do for brands all the time as subtle ways of leading an audience in advertisements. And you are correct, in the design world it's one of ways that you set up a visual hierarchy to organize information for the viewer so they know what is "most important."
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Many Jehovah's Witness Leaders and Followers Customize Their Religion to Suit Their Needs
by new boy inafter observing my jehovah's witness friends and family members for over 50 years it became apparent that the vast majority of "the brothers and sisters" pick and choose the rules and laws that their church/organization what them to follow.. tough the society may state these admonitions as definite "do's and don'ts" many of the church followers put these admonitions in the the "grey zone.".
the reason being jehovah will give them special dispensation.
yes, for some odd reason jehovah will cut these people some slack for the same things he must punish others for.
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dynamiterose77
Know what's gross... when your mom is giving you the "talk" at age 11 or 12 ... and she tells you she had to be strong in refusing to do "what gay men do" in bed with your dad... as an example to you for when you're married someday.
Still get shivers...
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JW's will NOT like the first months of life in the Paradise! (University Research)
by fulltimestudent inhave you ever wondered (when you were an active believer) what life would be like immediately after the big a?.
in my experience of the pre-big a spiritual paradise most witnesses were aware of the problem posed by the dead bodies of those slain by the bloody minded, would-be mass murderer jesus.
most liked to quote the author of the revelation, that carrion birds would eat the carcasses.
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dynamiterose77
@Blondie thanks for reminding me of the science projects I did based on Awake topics... I was heartbroken every year because I didn't do well...
... you can imagine how my 5th grade research paper about evolution went...
guaranteed my kids don't have that problem :-P
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"New Light" being the answer for every change, then also for going back to the thing they changed from.
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"Put on the JW uniform - and take off Humanity"
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know about the variation in the "cult persona vs the "real persona" of those in high control groups such as jws.. it struck me this becomes even more pronounced and apparent when jws actually put on their physical meeting or service attire, or are engaged in jw activities.
they become more robotic as their responses and actions - yes their opinions and discussions- are stripped of humanity and thought, and they become turned into some sort of regurgitating jw orator.. when they literally put on a suit or tie, the level of judgement, arrogance and black and white thinking takes on a whole new level.
take that clothing off, and put them in casual attire to attend some sort of enjoyable activity (eg sports watching or the like) and they become far more relaxed, and "normal".. i have noticed this particularly with my father.
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One of the signs of a cult is control over what members wear. "Uniforms" encourage a feeling of belonging and makes people stand apart from those not in the cult. It also makes outsiders painfully obvious when they come in. I think it also has a sort of Pavlovian response in the member, "I'm in my meeting clothes now, time to make a good example to all the nations!" I've heard stories about how actors can't really get into their parts until they put on their costume... they can then BECOME the person they're supposed to be. I think it can be similar.
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Do you remember when you realised it was all bulls£&t
by moley ini remember when my faith left me.
i used to enjoy meetings and used to participate but then all of a sudden i was finding myself bored shitless at meetings.
i was taken off the theocratic ministry school for not attending when i was due to give a talk and not long after did something naughty and got disfellowshiped.
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I was doing research for a paper when I was in college. I had already been feeling weird about it all for various reasons (I HAD to go to college, no option, got shunned. I had been basically brushed aside my entire life because my dad wasn't in. I had creeping weirdness because of the whole "you can't get married if you die before the end" thing, and all the girls losing their minds to land a brother... I had been laughed at for answering as a child that Macbeth was inappropriate because of witches -yeah, silly, but I was in grade school and humiliated in public for something they taught me was bad, witches and the occult in entertainment... etc etc.) So, for my final I decided to write a paper about frauds and how to educate people against them. I picked up "An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural" by James Randi at the library, and the floor fell out from under me when I was flipping through and found out about pyramids:
Jehovah's Witnesses
Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916) founded the religious sect now known as the Jehovah's Witnesses in 1872. While at that time there was much support for a theory by one Nelson H. Barbour that called for the end of the world to occur in 1874, Russell didn't come to accept that chronology until Barbour convinced him — after the dreaded date had already come and gone — that Jesus had actually returned — invisibly — at the named date. Barbour was the one who had made the false prediction, and he tried to justify it with a “spiritual” fulfillment.
One of Russell's strange preoccupations was inventing correlations between historical events and the measurements of the Great Pyramid of Giza. In common with Flinders Petrie and many other fans of Great Pyramid lore, Russell “discovered” hundreds of seeming links that he said showed the divine nature of the Pyramid as a history book and prophetic document which could only be properly understood by an adept.
His analysis, published in 1891, called for the resurrection of all mankind and the end of the world — again — to take place in 1914. Though there were some defections from the Jehovah's Witnesses sect when 1914 arrived and passed, the religion has survived and now prefers not to discuss their founder's odd Pyramid notions. Their most recent calculation called for the world to end in 1975.
As the millennium approached, the Witnesses were busily knocking on doors, trying to convince prospective converts that world conditions were getting worse and that obviously the End Time was approaching.
Again.Shortly after reading that a girl I knew as a small child on up, was impregnated by an MS. She was 15, she was punished. He was not. Then her friend, an elder's granddaughter, also got pregnant... she was congratulated. And I was done.