apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
Hello Simon,
The shutdown was set for December but some has been trying to backup the files. Doing the backup files were finally corrupted, so we shall start any new forum from scratch...
We doubt very much to recover any data.
There is no plan now for them to take back their decision...
the new spanish forum has pointed to a new case of child abuse:.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/abuso-a-menores/191-nuevo-caso-de-abusos-a-menores-en-madrid.
translation:.
Hello to all,
The new Spanish forum has pointed to a new case of child abuse:
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/abuso-a-menores/191-nuevo-caso-de-abusos-a-menores-en-madrid
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Translation:
For your information, in a few weeks, another case of child abuse in Madrid will be public on printed and online press. Another dramatic case of child abuse and harassment.
This Spanish citizen has decided to speak out. His history is a personal and family drama. He is very courageous to denounce the practices of Watchtower and the silence of the Spanish Bethel regarding confidential files.
Please give the maximum of visibility regarding this new case. Be attentive, I will be made public the press info as soon as available.
Regards,
Young Loyal Elder
apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
It looks like it has already shut down.
I would appreciate to have further feedback from Simon regarding a possible Spanish version of this forum or rather I will continue to build up any other possibilities...
apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
Hello Simon,
Domain: The owners of forum do not want to transfer it
Back up: after doing one back up the database has been corrupted. It will be quite difficult to arrange it.
Moderators: A few are available...
apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
Simon, I offer myself to moderate a Spanish version.
apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
The server is down for technical issues. The owners had mentioned December as date of closure.
I'a working on a replacement forum, we started only today:
i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
French Canadian TVA news reported this:
http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/10/14/une-jeune-mere-temoin-de-jehovah-meurt-au-bout-de-son-sang
Very dramatic and upsetting !
letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
For clarification, the info I received is that the letter involves a group of active elders.
As in Australia, this kind of situation might have been avoided instructing to obtain the "Certificate of no-molester", but JW are always upon the truth and law.
According to the info received, calls from elders to Spanish Bethel are transferred to an automatic message system where they can record their request. No more direct info... we will contact you later !
letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
The fine if you don't obtain the Certificate is 6000 €.
I got info that many elders started to request it and the the Ministry of a justice has contacted Spain Bethel to confirm the letter dated Oct 3rd.
JW must follow the law and no child molester or sexual harasser should be allowed in the congregation.
final article in www.elperiodico.es.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/sarah-transexual-los-testigos-han-prohibido-madre-que-viva-conmigo-5454048.
google translate:.
Final article in www.elperiodico.es
Google Translate:
GUILLEM SÀNCHEZ / BARCELONA
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2016 - 20:47 IST
Sarah, a transsexual who, still a man, was expelled in 2000 by a Brazilian congregation of the T Witnesses of Jehovah after admitting he was attracted by men, presented in Salamanca the second complaint of harassment against this religious organization, after he presented Miguel Garcia , as has been told this newspaper. In a statement at the police station of the Civil Guard, calls for the intervention of Spanish justice to recover the money he sent his family to Brazil after 8 years working as a prostitute in Italy and Spain.
He entered an international prostitution ring that brought her to Italy for paid sex change. Four years ago, he landed in Spain. During this period, in an irregular situation, he sent all the money he saved his mother. The plan was to buy a house they would live together. Her mother had been expelled from the same congregation as her. The first for adultery in 1997 and the second by immorality, in 2000. Sarah contacted his mother from Europe, they resumed their relationship and put the house on behalf of the parent.
Readmission MOTHER
The problems have come after his mother was readmitted within the congregation. Sarah, who was already disowned by her father when she was cast creed, was startled to learn of their return because it was feared that the Witnesses would cut the link regenerated.
"I noticed how more and took longer to answer my messages," he explains. His worst fears were confirmed. Soon she told him that "they should not live together." He stopped calling Sarah and returned to use their "male name" to refer to it. Daughter sent her transsexuality publications normalized, but the mother never accepted reading them. Sarah, desperate, contacted the congregation to ask her mother to lift the ban relate to it. She has also been ignored. "I lost my family, but at least I'd get the money I've earned with prostitution," implores.
