a group of former jw in spain has decided to request through law the return to any file regarding child abuse.
an official request has been sent today and a copy of this one has been copied to the ministry of justice and other government officials.. starting jan 16, we expect to get our request and receive the confidential files regarding our sexual abuse years ago.. we will keep you posted !.
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A group of former JW in Spain has decided to request through law the return to any file regarding child abuse. An official request has been sent today and a copy of this one has been copied to the Ministry of Justice and other government officials.
Starting Jan 16, we expect to get our request and receive the confidential files regarding our sexual abuse years ago.
We will keep you posted !
my dad{rip}, was a faithful jw since the year i was born, i'm 60, he died 2 years ago.
his last 12 years were spent in an assisted living/nursing home right in the small town where he spent the last 8 years of being an elder/pioneer.
when he went into the home, one brother would visit him regularly, but after 4 years, that friend moved away, and visitation from the locals ceased, for 8 years!!!!!!!
Not surprising...
an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
I feel this new provision will not solve the current situation regarding "sexual abuses"... specially for minors, children or vulnerable ones. Just the opposite, it will make it worse...
In Spain as in many countries within EU, all persons knowing any info regarding abuses MUST report to the police. Not only anyone present as a witness of these abuses, but as well anyone knowing details about them (aka... Elders in a Judicial Committee).
If the victim decides not to report to the authorities and the Judicial Committee decides not to disfellowship the abuser, another possible abuser will remain within the Congregation.
Last but not least, "Do not destroy" envelope with the details of the abuses seems to remain. Again, it seems that the registry of abusers within the Congregation (maybe some reported to the authorities, and other not reported) will not be stopped...
an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
@keinlezard So true... "Bulgaria II"? We have invited you and tell you you can report it, then....
an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
@StarTrekAngel, so true ! Covering their a*****, not victims rights....
an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
Hello to all,
An informant in Spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in Madrid (Spain) has posted new info regarding Elders School 2017. Important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses. https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017
Doing a summary:
- New changes are being check by the lawyers at this moment.
- Changes are held in order to fulfill European laws.
- Once exposed to a sexual abuse, when the judicial committee starts, the ones present must listened and read a statement stating that applying the state law of the country the victims can report to the authorities.
- The victim might be asked to sign a statement according he/she is aware of the possibility to report to the authorities.
- The signed statement or the info that the victim can report to the authorities will be held inside the "Do not destroy" envelope.
please, recent information is needed about this subject discussed some 12-years ago here on jwn?
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https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/85323/watchtower-society-50-share-holder-military-company?page=1&size=10.
Any human Spanish translator might try to work on this?
From my side, quite impossible these days... I have already too much work on the last movements in Spain...
more kingdom hall listed for sale:.
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.
when are we going to see more listed...?
@SadElder unfortunately so true. Our brother Darkspilver has pointed to an updated KH listed.
source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
This piece of document, shows two things.
All voluntary donations in France do not stay in the country. Nor they go to the Branch printing their "biblical literature".
Second, a clear evidence of how the funds are dropping. I agree with darkspilver that they are actively disincentivizing the donations.
source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
Darkspilver,
The figures are only of 1 of the 4 associations set up to manage the Work in France.
You shall then multiply the amount at least by 4. Anyhow donations in France seems to be very little...
