@StarTrekAngel, so true ! Covering their a*****, not victims rights....
sp74bb
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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?
by sp74bb inan informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?
by sp74bb inan informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.
https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.
doing a summary:.
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sp74bb
Hello to all,
An informant in Spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in Madrid (Spain) has posted new info regarding Elders School 2017. Important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses. https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017
Doing a summary:
- New changes are being check by the lawyers at this moment.
- Changes are held in order to fulfill European laws.
- Once exposed to a sexual abuse, when the judicial committee starts, the ones present must listened and read a statement stating that applying the state law of the country the victims can report to the authorities.
- The victim might be asked to sign a statement according he/she is aware of the possibility to report to the authorities.
- The signed statement or the info that the victim can report to the authorities will be held inside the "Do not destroy" envelope.
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Is there any recent information about Watchtower owning 50% of Rand Cam Engine Corp & REGI Technologies?
by AndersonsInfo inplease, recent information is needed about this subject discussed some 12-years ago here on jwn?
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https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/85323/watchtower-society-50-share-holder-military-company?page=1&size=10.
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sp74bb
Any human Spanish translator might try to work on this?
From my side, quite impossible these days... I have already too much work on the last movements in Spain...
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USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet
by sp74bb inmore kingdom hall listed for sale:.
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.
when are we going to see more listed...?
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sp74bb
@SadElder unfortunately so true. Our brother Darkspilver has pointed to an updated KH listed.
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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?
by sp74bb insource: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
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sp74bb
This piece of document, shows two things.
All voluntary donations in France do not stay in the country. Nor they go to the Branch printing their "biblical literature".
Second, a clear evidence of how the funds are dropping. I agree with darkspilver that they are actively disincentivizing the donations.
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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?
by sp74bb insource: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
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sp74bb
Darkspilver,
The figures are only of 1 of the 4 associations set up to manage the Work in France.
You shall then multiply the amount at least by 4. Anyhow donations in France seems to be very little...
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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?
by sp74bb insource: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.
"nothing is hidden.
jehovah's eyes sees everything.
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sp74bb
Source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf
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"Nothing is hidden. Jehovah's eyes sees everything
Document in French. Please check page 9. This is the audit report of the Association for Jehovah's Witnesses in France, East Region.
There is different associations like this one in other areas, all of them covering and managing the KH and congregations in France.
Surprisingly.... Almost all the donations in 2014 and 2015 has been transferred to "Jehovah's Witnesses in Germany", another equivalent association managing JW interests in Germany.
What the FDS do not tell, the "Journal Officiel" the public records journal in France informs it. All associations do have to publish their audit reports every year.
We do not speak about few pennies...
2014: 9.279.230 EUR
2015: 6.950.000 EUR
Where all millions of EUR from French JW have gone? Germany?
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Regional Kickbacks to WTS for Conventions
by Simon ini guess tax payers get to subsidize the conventions, who knew!.
https://user-cb2rbzy.cld.bz/jehovah-s-witnesses-2017-regional-convention/4.
no wonder they really push people to book through the congregation rather than privately, directly - it's all about the rebates!.
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sp74bb
A very usual practice within the tourism and convention industry.
Usually the return or the benefits are usually used to cut back the cost of the event. I'm sure this will not be taken into account and the same "voluntary contributions" will be asked.
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USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet
by sp74bb inmore kingdom hall listed for sale:.
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.
when are we going to see more listed...?
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sp74bb
More Kingdom Hall listed for sale:
http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/
When are we going to see more listed...? Quite surprising to see these listed as this with their price.. Don't you?
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FYI - A list and links to the ten news articles in Spain about JW child abuse that have appeared in less than a month
by AndersonsInfo inperiódico-28 nov. 2016. los testigos de jehová investigan internamente los casos de pederastia a través de las autodenominadas audiencias judiciales que forman .... australia, contra los testigos de jehová por la pederastiael periódico de aragón-28 nov. 2016. .
testigos de jehová dedican su jornada anual a la lealtadmeganoticias (comunicado de prensa)-28 nov. 2016. .
la justicia paralela de los testigos de jehovácompleto-el país-27 nov. 2016. .
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sp74bb
I agree with Barbara.
The media in Spain are very open and they informed very much about how child abuses are handled. Everything with testimonies, documents and evidences...
One last news article is missing:
Las víctimas de abusos de los Testigos de Jehová lanzan un teléfono de socorro
Jehovah's Witnesses abuse victims starts a helpline phone number.
Not bad at all !