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Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

by sp74bb in

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a new interesting article.... a group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms.

spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html.

english: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=alkjrhg84wp4qeizkmlijx_wtdrzx-zg9a.

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Human translation into English:

Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

A group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that they comply with the law

IGNASI Jorro @IgnasiJorro 16.04.2017 00:00 h.

Who keeps the data of the more than 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses (TJ) in Spain? A group of ex-members of the cult denounce "breaches" of the Organic Law of Data Protection (LOPD) within the congregation. The legal services of the organization respond that they "abide laws " in this matter.

AbusosTJ, which brings together people who denounce sexual assault when they were part of the millenarian cult, warns that JW "asks for data from the people they preach without asking them to sign the cession."

According to the same source, JW branch "replies some requests for cancellation out the deadline" which, in there view, "can be complicated for people of public notoriety who decide to leave the cult."

"STRICT LEGALITY"

Asked about the accusations, a spokesman for the JW legal services in Ajalvir (Madrid) has categorically denied them. "The Witnesses only ask for the personal data necessary for the proper functioning of the organization, just like any other entity," he said.

When the person leaves the organization "all data, except those strictly necessary, such as the first and last name, in case this person decides to rejoin" are deleted. This minimum file scope would serve for the "good organizational order" of the JW.

With regard to complaints to the Spanish Agency for Data Protection (AEPD), the spokesman stressed that "there are requirements that have been settled globally in favor of the congregation."

"SENSITIVE DATA"

Asked about the dispute between alleged victims of abuse and the hierarchy of the JW, Eloi Font, Managing Partner of the law firm specializing in digital law Font Advocats, recalled that the religious organizations datas "are especially sensitive."

"These datas are protected by the maximum protection level, which means that the user must be able to exercise their rights of modification, rectification or cancellation, that they must be protected, their custody must be notified to the AEPD and specific contracts must be signed with suppliers if they access data "said the lawyer.

In case of cancellation, regarding one of the assumptions insufficiently covered according to AbusosTJ, Mr. Font sheds more light. "The information is not erased, it is blocked, every data has a limitation period for public administrations, justice and taxation. The file should be blocked in order not to be used, and erased as the term expires,"

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Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

a new interesting article.... a group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms.

spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html.

english: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=alkjrhg84wp4qeizkmlijx_wtdrzx-zg9a.

sp74bb

@Skepsis, Anibal Matos is not anymore spokesman for the Branch.

He has a very good voice, but indeed... listening to him is the best chance to hear that JW stuff is really a lie...

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Who keeps the data of the 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain?

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

a new interesting article.... a group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; the congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms.

spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html.

english: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=alkjrhg84wp4qeizkmlijx_wtdrzx-zg9a.

sp74bb

A new interesting article...

A group of former members denounce "breaches" of the protection law; The congregation emphasizes that it complies with the norms

Spanish: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html

English: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/datos-testigos-jehova-lopd-proteccion-abusos-tj_71381_102.html&usg=ALkJrhg84wp4qEIZKmlIjx_wTDrzX-zg9A

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Abandoned literature carts, maybe the end of them?

by sp74bb in

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an innocent picture of a city in my country, spain.

the pic says everything.

many jw are really disgusted about everything, even their new preaching cart.

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An innocent picture of a city in my country, Spain. The pic says everything. Many JW are really disgusted about everything, even their new preaching cart.

A trustful source has informed me today that an important city in Spain is preparing to require all carts to obtain a licence to use the public areas, an insurance for civil claims and a clear identification of the owner of them...

Again a very hard day for JW.org

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Circuit hall for sale - Netherlands (even has a website)

by Anony Mous in

https://congreshal.nl/.

built in 1966, renovated 4 times since last in 2011, they then built a new one for eur 8m and sold this one.. roughly translated: the foundation for building and exploitation of congregation buildings of jehovah's witnesses (department bennekom) is happy to announce the sale of the congregation hall at edesweg 147 in bennekom.. the well maintained building of approximately 5700 sq meters divided in two layers with approximately 300 parking places on included property offers great possibilities for various fits.. on the edge of the "food valley" and "knowledge axis" lays the place bennekom currently fully under development.

both the reachability and the compartments of the buildings offer the space for various fits and cooperation between interested parties.. .

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Impressive !!!

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Spanish: Child abuses within JW. Fact and evidence video

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the independent evangelical tv media in latinoamérica, tvgracia, has made a special program of 35 min in spanish regarding how abuses are managed within jw:.

https://youtu.be/-l2kl5tzz1k.

sp74bb

The independent evangelical TV media in Latinoamérica, TVGracia, has made a special program of 35 min in Spanish regarding how abuses are managed within JW:

https://youtu.be/-L2KL5tzz1k

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Press in SPAIN report JW members go to JW headquarters to file a complaint for not receiving documents on cases of abuse they requested

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.

https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.

sp74bb

@darkspilver Thanks for sharing a proper English translation...

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Spain: Jehovah's Witnesses wants to silent a one-million-euro entrepreneurial hole

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source: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/testigos-jehova-agujero-empresarial-galicia_69908_102.html.

jehovah's witnesses asked to hide a one-million-euro entrepreneurial hole at a northern spain supply firm.

the cult appealed to the "peace" of the congregation to pressure the co-owners of the firm and prevent them from reporting the case to ordinary justice.. the case concerns a well-known construction supplies company based in a large northern city.

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Source: http://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/testigos-jehova-agujero-empresarial-galicia_69908_102.html

Jehovah's Witnesses asked to hide a one-million-euro entrepreneurial hole at a Northern Spain supply firm. The cult appealed to the "peace" of the congregation to pressure the co-owners of the firm and prevent them from reporting the case to ordinary justice.

The case concerns a well-known construction supplies company based in a large northern city. The company, founded in 1975, belongs to a family that has been a member of the Witnesses since it was born.

When one of the parents died in 2014, one of the daughters inherited a share in society. The rest of the capital remained in the hands of his relatives.

"ONE MILLION EUROS"

When the citizen received the shareholding inheritance, she discovered a remarkable puff in the firm in what seemed a solvent company, according to the documents to which this newspaper has been able to access.

According to the documents in the hands of several congregations of Witnesses in the northern area, the partner would have discovered the suspicious sale of an industrial warehouse and diversion of funds.

Likewise, the creation of a very similar company with a similar name emerged, a redirected web portal and an identical telephone. With this stratagem, the parallel merchant would have taken the goodwill, the merchandise and the clientele.

The complainant estimates that the loss caused by the alleged unfair administration totals one million euros, 400,000 euros in diverted funds and 600,000 in goods transferred to society B.

THE WITNESSES SUGGEST TO BE SILENT

As a Jehovah's Witness by birth, the neighbor came to the internal justice of the millenarian cult. Its first complaint of 2014, to which this newspaper was able to accede, suggested that its partners had committed fraud, unfair competition and irregular administration.

The response of the head office of the denomination in Spanish Bethel was very clear. "We want to encourage you to apply the biblical principles in all your decisions and not to be carried away by the emotions," says the letter.

SECOND COMPLAINT

Not content with the answer, the affected ones took another step. They sent an official letter to the headquarters of the Witnesses in which they insisted on indications of fraud. In addition, they called for the creation of an internal committee to investigate what happened.

Again, the leadership of the cult responded ( letter enclosed ) calling on the family to avoid ordinary justice. "Is the money and the rights, or the peace and family unity of the congregation more important to us?" asks a passage from the response letter.

"We are sure," continues the letter, "that as Christians who wish to do things in Jehovah 's way you will strive to follow these and other advice."

PRESSURES

In the rest of the documentation, the affected people emphasize the pressures received.

As the documents read, the businesswoman is affiliated with the denomination's internal justice administration circuit that has been relentless with her even though she would have delivered money to the family society when she needed it.

According to the latest communication with Spanish Bethel, the citizen has now turned to the Witnesses legal department at the world headquarters in the United States to try to reopen the investigation.

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JW Bethel asks for a million euros to be paid to avoid courtroom

by darkspilver in

from cronica (spain).

jehovah's witnesses 'plugged' a one million euro entrepreneurial hole.

the cult asked to maintain the "peace" of a congregation in galicia to avoid that the case of emptying of the company reached civil justice.. jws asked to hide a million-euro business hole at a supply company in la coruña (galicia).

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Full translation in English:

Jehovah's Witnesses asked to hide a one-million-euro entrepreneurial hole at a Northern Spain supply firm. The cult appealed to the "peace" of the congregation to pressure the co-owners of the firm and prevent them from reporting the case to ordinary justice.

The case concerns a well-known construction supplies company based in a large northern city. The company, founded in 1975, belongs to a family that has been a member of the Witnesses since it was born.

When one of the parents died in 2014, one of the daughters inherited a share in society. The rest of the capital remained in the hands of his relatives.

"ONE MILLION EUROS"

When the citizen received the shareholding inheritance, she discovered a remarkable puff in the firm in what seemed a solvent company, according to the documents to which this newspaper has been able to access.

According to the documents in the hands of several congregations of Witnesses in the northern area, the partner would have discovered the suspicious sale of an industrial warehouse and diversion of funds.

Likewise, the creation of a very similar company with a similar name emerged, a redirected web portal and an identical telephone. With this stratagem, the parallel merchant would have taken the goodwill, the merchandise and the clientele.

The complainant estimates that the loss caused by the alleged unfair administration totals one million euros, 400,000 euros in diverted funds and 600,000 in goods transferred to society B.

THE WITNESSES SUGGEST TO BE SILENT

As a Jehovah's Witness by birth, the neighbor came to the internal justice of the millenarian cult. Its first complaint of 2014, to which this newspaper was able to accede, suggested that its partners had committed fraud, unfair competition and irregular administration.

The response of the head office of the denomination in Spanish Bethel was very clear. "We want to encourage you to apply the biblical principles in all your decisions and not to be carried away by the emotions," says the letter.

SECOND COMPLAINT

Not content with the answer, the affected ones took another step. They sent an official letter to the headquarters of the Witnesses in which they insisted on indications of fraud. In addition, they called for the creation of an internal committee to investigate what happened.

Again, the leadership of the cult responded ( letter enclosed ) calling on the family to avoid ordinary justice. "Is the money and the rights, or the peace and family unity of the congregation more important to us?" asks a passage from the response letter.

"We are sure," continues the letter, "that as Christians who wish to do things in Jehovah 's way you will strive to follow these and other advice."

PRESSURES

In the rest of the documentation, the affected people emphasize the pressures received.

As the documents read, the businesswoman is affiliated with the denomination's internal justice administration circuit that has been relentless with her even though she would have delivered money to the family society when she needed it.

According to the latest communication with Spanish Bethel, the citizen has now turned to the Witnesses legal department at the world headquarters in the United States to try to reopen the investigation.

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Spain: The Ombudsman requires the Attorney General's Office to act on sexual abuses within Jehovah's Witnesses

by sp74bb in

source: https://abusostj.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/nota-de-prensa-el-defensor-del-pueblo-requiere-a-la-fiscalia-general-del-estado-que-actue-sobre-los-abusos-sexuales-en-la-confesion-testigos-de-jehova/.

barcelona, march 8, 2017. the ombudsman requires the attorney general's office to act on sexual abuses within jehovah's witnesses.. the #abusostj project was born in barcelona in october 2016. it is a project promoted by different victims of sexual abuse within jehovah's witnesses.

several media and national newspapers collected several months ago different testimonies of this type of abuses and how the religious group has silenced other cases.. on december 15, 2016, several jehovah's witnesses who were victims of abuse have requested protection from the government.

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@Vidiot

Getting out of the radar of JW and being requested by written 5 years later to follow a judicial audience is in fact a "persecution"...