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  Commuter Bethelite video

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

  some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

  so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

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  sp74bb

  Baker McKenzie has done a perfect job.

  Bethelites seen as "regular workers". Where is the scriptural side of this?
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  Police Raid on Dutch Branch Office, 2 kingdom halls and 4 private houses related to child sexual abuse

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/4508841/politie-invallen-bij-hoofdkantoor-en-kerkgebouwen-jehovahs.

  police raids at head office and church buildings jehovah's witnesses for abuse.

  the police attacked three of the buildings of jehovah's witnesses on november 19 as part of a major investigation into sexual abuse.. the police came in at the head office of the religious community in emmen and at two church buildings, so-called kingdom halls.

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  sp74bb

  They know quite well that other countries are as well checking them in this regard !!

  Netherlands has been the first :)
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  After watching A&E Leah Remini on Jehovah Witnesses I am going to stop hiding behind my Avatar

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got done watching this program and what impress me the most was the bravery of those x-witnesses to sit there on national tv and tell everyone how the wt.

  cult affected them.

  no hidden faces, no avatar names and no disguise.

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  sp74bb

  Bravo !!!!
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  New Press article about Abuses in Spain

  by sp74bb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/tj-insta-gobierno-investigar-abusos-sexuales_194252_102.html.

  barbara anderson made a short summary in english.

  i copy here :.

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  sp74bb

  https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/tj-insta-gobierno-investigar-abusos-sexuales_194252_102.html

  Barbara Anderson made a short summary in English. I copy here :

  I Google translated the article: see below. However, I could not translate the quotations from the WTS's literature.

  Abuses TJ urges the Government to investigate sexual abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses

  The group of former members wants the Prosecutor's Office to act to protect the victims and seize the files of the religious confession

  October 25, 2018

  The Abusos TJ collective has sent a letter to the Ministry of the Interior on Wednesday to urge them to investigate the alleged cases of sexual abuse that have been concealed for years from the different congregations in Spain of the Jehovah's Witnesses. As Crónica Global has learned, the main motivation of the letter is that for the first time a judicial process has been opened - in secret of summary - of a case in which the crime has not prescribed. This process could bring before the courts not only the alleged aggressors, but also some elders of the congregation who were aware of these abuses.

  Since the collective and sent in December 2016 a letter to the previous Executive, led by Mariano Rajoy, but never got a response. The current situation is more optimistic. In addition to this new case without prescribing, the public approach of other religious confessions, such as that of the Catholic Church, to update its protocols before cases of abuse to minors so that priests and bishops are required to notify the Office of the Prosecutor that receives, has opened a new scenario more favorable for the collective Abusos TJ.

  In conversation with this medium, they consider that the Attorney General's Office must intercede to "protect any victim of abuse" as well as to "requisition and protect the integrity of the sexual abuse files" that the confession has been "compiling for years" . On the other hand, from the Department of the Interior they explain that they will respond to the letter in a couple of days, but they remember that the Public Prosecutor can open "proceedings" if the case is not yet judicialized.

  Secret files

  At the time, Crónica Global exclusively published a series of secret archives in the international arena that included some of the cases of sexual abuse of minors that had occurred within the cult.

  Also, in some of the documents that circulate internally within the confession it can be seen that the elders are asked to "put in envelopes" and "not destroy" the data of all the cases, whether they are confirmed or not. In this sense, Abusos TJ urge the Government to "requisition" these documents that constitute a large database of both victims and alleged perpetrators.

  In another of the documents it is observed that they have protocalized how to talk to a victim, even if he is a minor, and without addressing the competent authorities. "They do not have psychological training to address the victims. It is one more way to cover the episodes, "explained Abusos TJ. It is about - they add - to investigate it through its "parallel courts".

  Expulsion, half Another of the conflicting points of the internal documents that circulate among congregations is that in the case that the culpability of an aggressor has been demonstrated and he has been expelled from the congregation, he can rejoin in another congregation of another city. That yes "elders should not inform the new congregation" - says the document - until "receive advice from the Department of Legal Affairs and instructions from the Department of Service."

  Internal document of Jehovah's Witnesses In addition, they have a card that says "Do not visit" in which the removal of these aggressors is guaranteed only to members of the cult, but no, they explain from Abusos TJ, "to the neighbors or other people if they are not of the Witnesses of Jehovah".
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  Kingdom Hall Closures In Canada.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  one of our friends in canada posted the following message to their circle of friends.

  "in our meeting last night, the coordinator read a letter from the canadian branch about the reorganized territories.

  all the territories in the fraser valley from hope to vancouver, about a hundred miles in all, have been reorganized to create larger congregations and improve the use of kingdom halls.

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  More KH to sell... More cash !!

  In many other countries in Europe, there is a trend to do this in order to optimize the net cash into Bethel. At the end, each JW country entity is owner of all KH's...
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  Twelve days in Spain -- Nary a JW Cart in Sight

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just concluded a twelve-day holiday in spain... seven cities in twelve days -- and not one sighting of a jw cart..

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  sp74bb

  Many cities authorities has not been authorizing carts, they consider them public sale or proselytism.
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  Norwegian Article in English: THE ELDER

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  you’ll find this article very long and very interesting.

  it was published as part of a series of articles in a quality newspaper in southern norway.

  as seen from the article, the journalists have been working on this article for several months.

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  sp74bb

  It was an excellent job of the Guardia Civil (armed police) trying to catch this pedophile.
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  Personal Data Permission (Spain)

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.

  that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.

  no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.

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  sp74bb

  The reality has showed into the congregation that some have not signed this request of Personal Data Protection. It has been the best way for many to stay away and not been disfellowshipped.
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  2018-03-29-Spain Branch Remodelling!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2018-03-29-spain branch remodelling.https://we.tl/4xkl4kgqheattachment to above letter.https://we.tl/ohtrjeert1atlantis!.

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  sp74bb

  Have they been asking AGAIN for money?
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  Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.

  so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?

  - what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?

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  sp74bb

  Thanks for doing it.

  Quite good for our Spanish exTJ