Posts by sp74bb

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New Zealand Begins Selling Kingdom Halls

by KiwiBoy in

the wainui-o-mata hall is closing and from 01 february they will be relocated to the 200 seater hall in newlands.

johnsonville is merging with the wellington west congregation and will be known at wellington central also to be located in the newlands hall.

wellington east will remain in the hall in kilbirnie at this stage but rumour has it that this hall will also be sold and they will make up the third congregation sharing the newlands hall.

Caleb and Sophia app?!?!?

by DATA-DOG in

wtf???

i didn’t know this was a thing.

is someone making significant money from this?

March 2019 WT

by The Fall Guy in

another mind-numbing edition with instructions on how adult jw's should be conducting themselves as "christians.

i did like this paragraph though - after some reading between the lines:.

page 11, par.

sp74bb

Really disgusting how they try to sell this :)

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My brother-in-law is mentally out!

by Kathy1978 in

so....i’m going to rewind for a second.

one of my brother-in-laws came over one evening late in 2016, november i think, just to hang out.

we hadn’t seen him in a while and this is before we told anyone in his family we were out.

New introduction

by formerministerial in

jw
friends

hello to all of you,.

here goes an introduction of a new member.

i'm 45 years old now and we wake up my wife and i from borg a few years ago.. i'm living between spain and france, due to my work.. it has been always refreshing to listen and read many of you here.. i hope it will continue the same..

sp74bb

Bienvenido (Welcome) !!

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Sexual abuse scandals, paid agreement to several victims

by formerministerial in

due to my work, i've been traveling quite a lot in south of europe.. i still have a lot of contacts within jw and exjw and i'm surprised in my conversations, most of them are very concerned regarding sexual abuses scandals in their area, either italy, spain and other countries.. one of my contact high ranked even told about the craziness in some branches south of europe regarding that matter.

it has been confirmed that several scandals are being judged on court, but some other ones has been closed paying a large sum of money.. any confirmation from other sources?.

sp74bb

I think @formerministerial is speaking about settlements outside US, specially south of Europe...

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Commuter Bethelite video

by no-zombie in

for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

sp74bb

Baker McKenzie has done a perfect job.

Bethelites seen as "regular workers". Where is the scriptural side of this?

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Police Raid on Dutch Branch Office, 2 kingdom halls and 4 private houses related to child sexual abuse

by Not_Culty in

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/4508841/politie-invallen-bij-hoofdkantoor-en-kerkgebouwen-jehovahs.

police raids at head office and church buildings jehovah's witnesses for abuse.

the police attacked three of the buildings of jehovah's witnesses on november 19 as part of a major investigation into sexual abuse.. the police came in at the head office of the religious community in emmen and at two church buildings, so-called kingdom halls.

sp74bb

They know quite well that other countries are as well checking them in this regard !!

Netherlands has been the first :)

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After watching A&E Leah Remini on Jehovah Witnesses I am going to stop hiding behind my Avatar

by Still Totally ADD in

jw
friends

just got done watching this program and what impress me the most was the bravery of those x-witnesses to sit there on national tv and tell everyone how the wt.

cult affected them.

no hidden faces, no avatar names and no disguise.

sp74bb

Bravo !!!!

New Press article about Abuses in Spain

by sp74bb in

https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/tj-insta-gobierno-investigar-abusos-sexuales_194252_102.html.

barbara anderson made a short summary in english.

i copy here :.

sp74bb

https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/vida/tj-insta-gobierno-investigar-abusos-sexuales_194252_102.html

Barbara Anderson made a short summary in English. I copy here :

I Google translated the article: see below. However, I could not translate the quotations from the WTS's literature.

Abuses TJ urges the Government to investigate sexual abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses

The group of former members wants the Prosecutor's Office to act to protect the victims and seize the files of the religious confession

October 25, 2018

The Abusos TJ collective has sent a letter to the Ministry of the Interior on Wednesday to urge them to investigate the alleged cases of sexual abuse that have been concealed for years from the different congregations in Spain of the Jehovah's Witnesses. As Crónica Global has learned, the main motivation of the letter is that for the first time a judicial process has been opened - in secret of summary - of a case in which the crime has not prescribed. This process could bring before the courts not only the alleged aggressors, but also some elders of the congregation who were aware of these abuses.

Since the collective and sent in December 2016 a letter to the previous Executive, led by Mariano Rajoy, but never got a response. The current situation is more optimistic. In addition to this new case without prescribing, the public approach of other religious confessions, such as that of the Catholic Church, to update its protocols before cases of abuse to minors so that priests and bishops are required to notify the Office of the Prosecutor that receives, has opened a new scenario more favorable for the collective Abusos TJ.

In conversation with this medium, they consider that the Attorney General's Office must intercede to "protect any victim of abuse" as well as to "requisition and protect the integrity of the sexual abuse files" that the confession has been "compiling for years" . On the other hand, from the Department of the Interior they explain that they will respond to the letter in a couple of days, but they remember that the Public Prosecutor can open "proceedings" if the case is not yet judicialized.

Secret files

At the time, Crónica Global exclusively published a series of secret archives in the international arena that included some of the cases of sexual abuse of minors that had occurred within the cult.

Also, in some of the documents that circulate internally within the confession it can be seen that the elders are asked to "put in envelopes" and "not destroy" the data of all the cases, whether they are confirmed or not. In this sense, Abusos TJ urge the Government to "requisition" these documents that constitute a large database of both victims and alleged perpetrators.

In another of the documents it is observed that they have protocalized how to talk to a victim, even if he is a minor, and without addressing the competent authorities. "They do not have psychological training to address the victims. It is one more way to cover the episodes, "explained Abusos TJ. It is about - they add - to investigate it through its "parallel courts".

Expulsion, half Another of the conflicting points of the internal documents that circulate among congregations is that in the case that the culpability of an aggressor has been demonstrated and he has been expelled from the congregation, he can rejoin in another congregation of another city. That yes "elders should not inform the new congregation" - says the document - until "receive advice from the Department of Legal Affairs and instructions from the Department of Service."

Internal document of Jehovah's Witnesses In addition, they have a card that says "Do not visit" in which the removal of these aggressors is guaranteed only to members of the cult, but no, they explain from Abusos TJ, "to the neighbors or other people if they are not of the Witnesses of Jehovah".