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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

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  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  What would Russell or Rutherford think of this Religion now I wonder?

  Of course they are dead so we can't ask them...or ARE they?!? Maybe they are in their post up in heaven as 144000 rulers, and are directing this new fangled religion?😉
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  The end of an era ......

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have written some time ago, about how the religion i grew up in no longer exists.

  i was an 80’s jw kid who became a pioneer then a bethelite.

  they have new meetings, new elder roles, new acronyms, new core teachings, new songs and even a new bible.

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  stuckinarut2

  Great post!

  Yes, it really seemed to go downhill and change rapidly from about 2012/2013 when they went online, and became televangelist whores!
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  December 6, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Study of Jesus—The Way

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  december 6, 2017 to all congregations re: study of jesus—the way.

  jesus—the way, the truth, the life.

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  stuckinarut2

  Wow! Good comment Annon!

  I have not noticed that before. So you're saying that there is no song title aboutJesus??
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  Hello Again

  by everbrighterhal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sorry if this is in the wrong category!

  i am formerly adimmedlight, or something close to that.

  i have been lurking here a few years now and while i did make an account before, i used a fake email (i no longer remember it, since it was made only to log in the one time i posted.. )because i was so paranoid people in my home town would discover me and "out" me.

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  Welcome!

  Yes, once we reach that stage of not giving a damn about the witness labels of DF, DA etc, we have reached a powerful level!
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  Implications of gender and racial imbalance in JW population.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was inspired by a recent post by nike and the comments that followed re gender balance in the org.

  if jw's accept the concept that the gb continue to push - that people only become believers if they are "rightly disposed" and are thereby "drawn by god.".

  then given the huge gender imbalance and also the huge differences in percentages of jw in some lands vss others only two things can possible follow from that:.

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  stuckinarut2

  Yes, great thread!

  I can remember saying to my father once that Jehovah may not be impartial, as he clearly is drawing more people from certain sections of the world, but almost ignoring whole swathes of the population!

  He just couldn't see what I was saying!
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  Unbelievable KMS example

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.

  several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.

  one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.

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  Ah yes ttdtt, THAT CO visit with elders and servants! Wasn't that the outline that also went into detail and discussed that "pornography showing 2 women is bad, but not in the same league as other forms of pornography"

  I remember thinking how odd it was that they were now stipulating types of porn!
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  Mormon Apostate discovers he must now refute his former apologist stance

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an otherwise honest and intelligent fellow (former mormon) who 'woke up' and realized all his previous efforts at providing apologist material needs to be refuted--by himself!the parallel to jw thinking and our old life vs new life approach to debunking former sincerely held beliefs finds quite an amusing mirror, imho.check it out.

  i think you'll see your time repaid handsomely.http://mormondiscussions.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45012.

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  Thanks Terry.

  Yes, for some time, I have been interested in the comparisons and similarities that we as ex Jws and ex Mormons face.
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  The Phonograph and the Cart

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these special pioneers took the lead in the phonograph work when the society voluntarily withdrew from commercial use of the radio.. to learn of the effectiveness of this new program let's read from the 1940 yearbook, which presents the report for the 1939 service year:.

  the special pioneer work was announced at the columbus convention in september, 1937, and that work has continued now for two years with good results.

  when the special pioneer work began the company publishers were not convinced of the value of making back-calls and the regular daily use of the phonograph.. about 200 specially chosen pioneers throughout the country took upon themselves the responsibility of really putting to use the phonograph.

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  I want one of the alive singing carts!

  Then we can teach it to sing ;

  "I have wheels, I have racks,

  full of propaganda tracts,

  I take the culty message everywhere....(except when it's rainy or hot, or mildly inconvenient)
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  The emptiness…

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_fh9cygpp4&feature=share.

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  That sounds so morbid!

  HOW is that meant to be a happy song of praise?

  And watching the screen for the lyrics? What the hell has this religion become?
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  Toasted daughter: Why Jephthah almost certainly sacrificed his daughter to a complicit Jehovah

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah's witnesses insist that jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter to jehovah.

  this is important to them because, rarther than jephthah just being a random bad person, jehovah was very much in on the deal.

  after all, he made the promise to jehovah that he would "offer up as a burnt offering" on his return the first thing to come out of his house if jehovah would give the ammonites into his hands in battle, and since they were this makes jehovah complicit.. the isrealites had been getting a good thrashing of late, and the gilead elders (oh boy) had come out to ask jephthah, the rejected son of a prostitute (wouldn't you know it) and renown soldier, if he would lead the isrealites into battle for them.. this is when jephthah makes the deal with jehobo, and it all centres on the word for "burnt offering", which is given as "olah".

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  Yes! Jehovah supposedly hated the surrounding nations acts of child sacrifice etc...

  So, when Jeptha made that promise, Jehovah should have unequivocally stated "NO!, for that is something detestable to me!"

  Funny how there is no of record of that!