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  Beer During the Day

  by simplesally in

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  i am drinking beer today.

  i know, i know................carbs, carbs.

  but i don't care, its my day off and i bought a 12 pack of corona last week and i felt like having one.

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  codeblue

  shooters...lol...I did some tequila when my stepkids were down during the holidays!!!

  geez...I haven't eaten in hours..I would fall flat on my a.. if I started the shooters...but ok...count me in

  let's see what happens!!! lol

  Codeblue
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  Beer During the Day

  by simplesally in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am drinking beer today.

  i know, i know................carbs, carbs.

  but i don't care, its my day off and i bought a 12 pack of corona last week and i felt like having one.

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  codeblue

  lol...I say one because I am not anerexic now, back at my normal weight...

  I just want to be at that beach you just showed a pic of!!!

  I usually prefer liquor to beer for the no fat/no carb content.

  Codeblue
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  Beer During the Day

  by simplesally in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am drinking beer today.

  i know, i know................carbs, carbs.

  but i don't care, its my day off and i bought a 12 pack of corona last week and i felt like having one.

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  codeblue

  Hey, if drinking a Corona everyday took me to that beach you just featured, I will gladly drink one each and everyday!!!

  Codeblue
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  Beer During the Day

  by simplesally in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am drinking beer today.

  i know, i know................carbs, carbs.

  but i don't care, its my day off and i bought a 12 pack of corona last week and i felt like having one.

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  codeblue

  Beer during the day, but of course!!!

  I too have been guilty of that...lol

  When I use to mow my yard, my reward was a "beer"...nothing better on a hot day, an ice cold beer!!!

  When I was going thru my divorce, I dropped a lot of pounds, I was looking quite anerexic for a while. A sister from the KH I attended told me to drink beer: that'll put the weight back on ya...So I tried it...it didn't work for a long time!!! At least I got to drink beer for a while with no added pounds!!!

  Codeblue
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  "If you permit it--- you promote it."

  by codeblue in

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  it is a very thought provoking comment.

  when learning about the scandals and lies about the truth(tm)...is that how you feel?.

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  Please understand...

  I could create an alias for myself on this board, but frankly - I am not in need at this time to vocalize and grieve. Like many of you, Codeblue finds GREAT value in her participation on this board and I am happy for all of you! I on the other hand am at peace with my decisions and my stand against the issues at hand.

  I am NOT 'hiding'!! (as has been suggested)

  I have made a firm decision to fade and am very content in this peaceful state. This decision and action is how I (personally) answered the title of this thread. I choose NOT to permit the issues present within the society as acceptable - because I feel that if I turned a blind eye to these issues, I would be promoting such corruption! I feel there is 'guilt by association'.

  Therefore, through my actions to fade, I effectively broke my ties to the organization.

  I do not need to verbalize my position on this matter in order to make a choice! Actions usually speak much louder than words anyways. There is a saying of people who are "all talk": "Your actions are speaking SO loudly that I can't hear a word you are saying".

  It is my wish that my actions shout to everyone that what I have witnessed is wrong! I wish to set an example to others that it is possible to move on from this disgraceful organization - without causing chaotic destruction to my personal life, along with deep personal resentment and hatred of others.

  At the risk of sounding arrogant or pieous (forgive me...), I am personally focused on dealing with these issues surrounding the WTBTS in this way:

  I am focused embracing (!!) the emotions that naturally come with this experience.

  My experiences PALE in comparison to so many of you on this board! I am stunned by what I have read! My heart pains for each of you. But rest assured, I too have pained deeply as a result of what I viewed as a clear betrayal and lies. I have groaned in spirit for years over what I have seen. I have personally been DF'd and reinstated - all in an unjust and non Christian manner. I have been lied to and truly betrayed - not only in business in the tune of 10's of thousands of dollars by an elder, but also in my previous marriage of 16 years! I have seen my children sob tears over the loss of their family because Mommy became an cigarett smoking, alcoholic whore - all the while conducting up to SIX Bible studies and giving talks. I have seen my children resent God because of what has happened. I have seen many friends whose family foundation has become rocked due to some predator stealing their children's innocence and receive safety and sanctuary behind the cloak of the elders in the congregation (regardless of the direction given in that letter that was read in the congregations!!).

  I believe I have much that I could type on this board in my grief and utter disgust! Please be assured that I understand how important it is to express yourself in writing about how you are feeling as you heal from these traumatic experiences! I have done this in my own personal journal as I analysed my own faith and spirituality over several years. When I was ready... I have also found a great healing value in printing out, re reading, burning and then celebrating the destruction of this journal.

  How much more enriched I have become as a result of this experience! I have learned SO much as it relates to the nature of man. The corruption that naturally comes to simple, uneducated men (janitors and window washers) that are given enormous power and unlimited authority (MS, elders, Governing Body etc). I have learned how to find and identify true friendships. I have learned the consequences of harbouring hatred, and the calming, peaceful effects of 'real' forgiveness. (man!! that was hard!!) I have learned what it means to have a real relationship with my children; not one based on reading Young People Ask books, and teaching them to solicit WT & Awake mags at the door. I have learned that it is NOT my duty to control the choices and actions of my wife! (that was a biggie!) I am not responsible for another person's choices and behavior. I have learned that the only person that I can control ... is "me"; and as a result of that realization - I am now in the most healthy, nourishing and rewarding marriage that I could ever dream of! A relationship of trust... honor... and love.

  I am so proud of my wife!

  And I never would have found her if I didn't go through everything I mentioned above.

  This whole thing about the corruption within the WTBTS has (IMHO) made me a better Christian and husband.

  As a result of "witnessing" all this... (no pun intended) ...I now know exactly what Christ directed us to watch out for!

  I am a better person as a result of my painful experience - and I don't resent anyone for showing me, and teaching me how to be a better human being. I just happened to learn this through a demonstration of how NOT to behave - instead of an example that was worthy of imitation.

  I learned a bigger lesson this way.

  Mr. Codeblue

  PS... Please forgive me for posting under my wife's name. I feel that if I were to continue to post here - I wouldn't progress. I am trying very hard to live and celebrate today and tomorrow with my new 'spirituality'. I do not wish to stay hooked to the bad experiences of my past.

  I wish each of you a speedy healing process.
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  "If you permit it--- you promote it."

  by codeblue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very thought provoking comment.

  when learning about the scandals and lies about the truth(tm)...is that how you feel?.

  codeblue

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  codeblue

  Clarification:

  (I'm Codeblue's 'other half'... and asked Codeblue to post this thread to see the responses) This is my first time posting.

  As many of us here on the board acknowledge, there are some very serious issues transpiring within the organization. Many of us (myself included) have agonized intensely on how to find the courage to distinguish ourselves from the unethical / non-Biblical / non-Christian bahavior observed in the halls.

  I read in the messages above that 'this is too black and white'. "It's jw-ish thinking". But isn't this the whole issue? I personally DO see this as being a 'black and white' choice:

  Choice One: The consequences of such efforts to distinguish ourselves from the 'borg' can be devistating indeed! (Df'ing, losing family relationships and lifelong 'friends')

  Choice Two: Yet, we agonize over the 'spiritual consequences' of ... just turning a blind eye towards these clear issues. What does Jeh think of our spinelessly "permitting" such bahavior? Am I really identified as God's true Christian when I simply say "Jeh will look after it"? Or Biblically, did Jeh always show favor to those who took a stand against those who risked it all and made a stand for true worship? (For those who do not believe in God or Christianity - the question might be: "Am I being true to my own personal spirituality when I 'permit' my accepted social circle's bad behavior?")

  How incredibly agonizing a choice! And each of us as part of the human family are faced with it. (Regardless of being a JW or NON JW)

  Do we hold to our true spiritual values? or do we 'permit' spiritually corrupted behavior (as we each individually define corruption) in an effort to avoid pain and loss?

  I found strength and the courage to make a choice through meditation on this issue.

  I suggest that a compressed version of the above issue may be expressed as "If you permit it - you promote it"

  With this 'clarification' - I would still like to hear your comments.

  Mr CB....
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  have any of you heard this term?

  by kls in

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  my son was at the gym last week when he saw a guy he knew from school.

  i guess they started talking and asked where each other lived.

  it came down to that this guy lives three houses down from my daughter.

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  Yeap, heard it a couple years ago when I saw "American Pie"...
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  "If you permit it--- you promote it."

  by codeblue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very thought provoking comment.

  when learning about the scandals and lies about the truth(tm)...is that how you feel?.

  codeblue

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  codeblue

  It is a very thought provoking comment.

  When learning about the scandals and lies about the truth(tm)...is that how you feel?

  Codeblue
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  Breaking out of the Judgmental WTS mind set

  by Maverick in

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  gretchen's post got me thinking about how people view each other.

  there are a lot of factors that have to be considered, culture, education, and location to name a few.

  jw's views are "colored" by the wts?

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  codeblue

  I am pretty new to this board....but I have to say that I think some have a tendency to be judgemental that are posting here. I found it rather shocking when I started posting because I thought this board was a place for comfort and support. I am not saying, a person doesn't have a right to "their viewpoint"...but at least show some dignity for how other people view things.

  I am trying very hard to break loose from that "mindset"....Years of indoctrination plays an impact on one's thinking process---I know that I never thought I was judgemental...until I took a few steps back and saw the "real colors".

  Thanks for starting this thread....Maverick!

  Codeblue
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  Well I Just Got Let Go! :(

  by Yizuman in

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  as of this morning at 6 am est, my boss came in to the store where i worked and told me that since "business was slow", he had no choice but to let me go.. .

  i asked him why did he hire that new employee last week if business was slow??

  he just looked at the counter and would not answer me.

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  codeblue

  I worked for a temp employment agency...what your employer has done to you should be reported ASAP.

  Make sure you tell the unemployment division everything you have shared with us...they need to know these facts. There are programs out there to help you get more advanced training while you work (that is paid for by the State)...please ask about that when you file for unemployment!

  Hope things get better for you!

  Codeblue