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  Checkmate WT!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  as a lot of you know, i am making a catalog of all the articles and quotes that the wt used to make the creation book.

  i want to see all the quotes for myself, if possible.. i went to my university today, and i got some more books.. checkmate, wt!

  i can now check every single quote, almost without regard to how obscure or rare the book is!.

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  Stirred

  I look forward to hearing your results!
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  WITNESSES CAN STOP REPORTING FIELD SERVICE!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the lawyers acting on behalf of the wtbts/g.b./'mother' during a paedophile case a couple of years ago, have stated on record that - .

  a) "field ministry is not controlled or monitored by the elders, the congregation, or watchtower".

  b) "an individual publisher's field ministry activity, including the time and manner it is carried out, is a personal matter between the publisher and his god.".

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  This post along with my own feelings that reporting field service time leads to caste system and discouragement (etc), led me to report my first zero report. I was asked diredtly by elder for report That was not turned in for prior month. I stated that I had zero (with confidence and no shame) and asked if he'd like me to hand him a slip with zero on it to confirm. He said no slip was necessary. He seemed a bit shocked. My husband was surprised though inactive.
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  I'm a target now

  by Stirred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it has come to another fork in the road.

  i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.

  car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.

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  Stirred

  I dont want to say how old kids are.....stilll a bit uncomfortable with too much info.

  my husband and i are not separating.

  We have reasons and a home already where i can go - wa a rental. I will work on certifications and work and see how things go as far as if i can start making momey here enough to live support us and he will consider coming more but he loves our home and is reluctant to leave. So kids and he will go back n forth until direction becomes clearer.

  I need to get away from all the crazy that keeps getting crazier.
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  I'm a target now

  by Stirred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it has come to another fork in the road.

  i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.

  car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.

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  Stirred

  Thank you for feedback. I do feel a mess. i am currently planning to move temporarily as husband doesnt want to move. And do to work and desire, he will not fully move but says he will visit. He supports me to get away for 4-6 months and in reading what some say here about fading, I felt I need to act carefully. I dont want kh looking for me when i come back to visit or live.

  i am only concerned about pleasing Jehovah, Jesus and my family And my study. My youngest is very concerned and all my kids want to go to meetings But do see the unequal treatment that member display toward my study versus us.....invite her out but not us, call and text her and invite her to parties and gatherongs, but not us.

  I have only just started to talk to them a bit. I need to take baby steps and very carefully.

  if i have to come back and if i have not had my cards sent to a new hall, they will still be looking for me when i come back. Why do i care? I guess it sounds easier than a confrontation and do to fact I have been very active and visible, I think a sudden change would obviously predicate some move on their part. They've already started coming by my house and trying to get to my door unexpectedly but my gate was chained. I have heard a local needs that sounded eerily like it was directed toward me....critical of certain kinds of service as currently i havent been d2d but still have bs that im transitioning to other member.

  if i do nothing, i feel id be hounded and a hypocrit. Furthermore, the intense judging I feel I have experienced would be amped up And I'm already unhealthy. I dont think it would help me a bit to ramp up pressure on myself or family when im already cracking.
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  I'm a target now

  by Stirred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it has come to another fork in the road.

  i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.

  car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.

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  Stirred

  Sorry for confusion. Actually I announced I am/we are moving out of state. We ARE literally moving (though not permanent) out of state.

  I will tell study tomorrow.

  I was just pondering details of next step And if I'm being true to my sense of integrity....if i cannot support, then thinking that DA is better than fade but if i intend to fade i must go to a hall in move state where not known too well.

  Some seem to suggest that I do not give my new address.

  I think I am going to be hounded for a while by elders. Time will tell.

  I will be careful. I don't want stigma For my kids.
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  If You Could Tell A Jehovah's Witness One Thing~~~What Would It Be?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really would just like to ask them if they believe everything they hear on the platform or read in a magazine.

  they seriously look like cultists.

  it is embarrassing..

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  Stirred

  I don't think JW's are swine and technically i am still one.

  I would share a quote from former president of Mormon/LDS leader that i read recently, "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed. - J. Reuben Clark"
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  I'm a target now

  by Stirred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it has come to another fork in the road.

  i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.

  car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.

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  Stirred

  Well, it has come to another fork in the road. I have been going to other meetings and skipping more. Car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked. (They didn't call me)

  My husband and I have decided to move far away for a while. My intention is to fade...at least it was this weekend when i announced it to the elders. Now i wonder if i am breaking my integrity by not disassociating since I cannot fully support and agree with all their teachings.

  i need full information.

  What would happen if i dissasociate? Couldn't I still attend meetings if I wanted to, wherever i wanted to? I don't have to acknowledge their hangup about DA.

  Like the old song goes, "Breaking up is hard to do......"
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  Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?

  by mrquik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's happened before.

  how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.

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  Stirred

  i can only speak for myself... Im feel im ramoing down and figuring out my next steps....and so is my whole family both immediate and extended. It could be major for us. We are counting costs, researching, and carfully considering though with deep respect to Jah and Jesus. By the futs we are recognizing somethng is teeribly wrong with the "tree."
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  WITNESSES CAN STOP REPORTING FIELD SERVICE!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the lawyers acting on behalf of the wtbts/g.b./'mother' during a paedophile case a couple of years ago, have stated on record that - .

  a) "field ministry is not controlled or monitored by the elders, the congregation, or watchtower".

  b) "an individual publisher's field ministry activity, including the time and manner it is carried out, is a personal matter between the publisher and his god.".

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  Stirred

  INCREDIBLE. Thank you so much for posting this.
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  "They've made us debt FREE !!!"

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so proclaimed the brother that read the wt letter tonight that explained the new kingdom hall funding arrangement.. everyone in the hall claps .... well, like it was the last talk on the district convention.. he says 'what bank would wipe out a debt of $200,000 ???

  only jehovah's organization!

  isn't this wonderful !!!".

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  Stirred

  i miissed Sunday and attended other hall last night. They asked congregation to drop their donation slips in the time box. Perhaps that is direction my hall is going. They werent sire last Thursday.

  i dont know why this issue bothers me so when there are so many other issues. I guess if i cannot reason this smaller one it makes it uard to reason on bigger ones.....like last week an extended family member tells me their Bible study conductor tells them that if they dont pioneer after baptism, he probably wont be hamging out with him much.

  Give us/them your money without questioning, but don't expect friends if you don't pioneer or reach out for more "privileges."