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  Elders attempted to catch me out

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  hey all,.

  i had two elders just "drop in" yesterday...walked around the back of my house and all....rude....i happened to be home, and opened the door.... one is doing spring cleaning at his house, and so in general chit chat, they spoke of how we all dont need to keep the bound volumes or older mags anymore, as everything we need is on the website or cd rom.... i just casually said, "yes, but its nice to have the originals so we can see the original wording and info".

  one of them snapped his neck spinning so quick, frothed at the mouth and said "what do you mean changes?...nothing changes!!".

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  Hairtrigger

  Get a Rottweiler and pick up dead CO's/elders from your backyard next time.
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  CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

  share your horror story!.

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  Hairtrigger

  Attende cong after 5 months. No pledges made as yet. CO coming in a few weeks . guess thats when the coin is dropped.
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  C'mon Analysts- The game is on! Let's play.

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as has been established on this forum many times over, the wtbs/ gb /fds is aping the policies of the catholic church in almost every detail.

  the catholic church owns prime property all around the world given its supreme standing in the dark ages and after.

  does the wbts have a bigger game plan in mind ?

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  Real Estates experts and bankers had already bugun predicting the housing collapse from early 2006. By mid 2006 loud whispers of the Impending recession had started to filter out of Wall Street. The real estate crash began to be felt acutely around the beginning of 2008.
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  untitled

  by venting in

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  2. friends

  some of my musings.

  the last time the do was at our hall he talked about the borians.

  the ones who checked the scriptures carefuly to see if these things were so.

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  Hairtrigger

  Punkofnice,

  Thanks for sequencing those excerpts. However, when I try a copy transfer on MSWord only a partial copy appears. Any advice ?

  Anyone?
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  C'mon Analysts- The game is on! Let's play.

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as has been established on this forum many times over, the wtbs/ gb /fds is aping the policies of the catholic church in almost every detail.

  the catholic church owns prime property all around the world given its supreme standing in the dark ages and after.

  does the wbts have a bigger game plan in mind ?

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  Hairtrigger

  RVW thanks for the correction. I understand yu speak of losses involving speculation by WBTS?

  Q. Why have they sold property 13 years after the event? And why now when real estate prices are still trying to reach pre- 2007 levels? Why not between 2002-2006?
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  C'mon Analysts- The game is on! Let's play.

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as has been established on this forum many times over, the wtbs/ gb /fds is aping the policies of the catholic church in almost every detail.

  the catholic church owns prime property all around the world given its supreme standing in the dark ages and after.

  does the wbts have a bigger game plan in mind ?

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  Hairtrigger

  Way back in 2006 this same game was played at a smaller level in a third world country. 8 or 10 KH's were promised ( and I thought " where the hell are they going to get the money to buy so many properties when the price of properties in this city of this third world country is even higher than those in first world countries)."

  And- blow me a paperbag- suddenly a property in the number one city of this country was sold. The KH's never got built. Congregations that were promised the KH's wre merged with others or had to disperse to other congregations.

  One of the best properties they had was sold for far below its market price. At that time I had wondered at their stupidity in selling such a plum for pennies. When I heard of the congregations being made redundant two years agoI realized the hoax.

  AND GUESS WHAT? The guy who takes care of the finance at that country's headquarters was brought to NY on two occations in the last three years! For reasons that are totally hush! hush!

  Now that it is happening on such a large scale here I am inclined to think, " that was a trial run. This is the real deal." But ...the million dollar question... what is their end game? If they begin to club congregations together or begin mergers -maybe that will give us a clue as to whats going on.
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  C'mon Analysts- The game is on! Let's play.

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as has been established on this forum many times over, the wtbs/ gb /fds is aping the policies of the catholic church in almost every detail.

  the catholic church owns prime property all around the world given its supreme standing in the dark ages and after.

  does the wbts have a bigger game plan in mind ?

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  Hairtrigger

  As has been established on this forum many times over, the WTBS/ GB /FDS is aping the policies of the Catholic church in almost every detail. The catholic church owns prime property all around the world given its supreme standing in the dark ages and after.

  Does the WBTS have a bigger game plan in mind ? Now here is the break in pattern They've sold valuable NY properties which seems like madness. Or is it?

  The money they've collected is a whopping big chunk. Now they wanna see that multiply. Real estate is a safe gamble to bet on rather than the stock market. I have a sneaky feeling about certain losses on the stock market ( given its volatility over the past 4 years) that they won't let anyone know about. Hence this sudden interest in real estate albiet bought with the R&F's money.

  Others have speculated that they might be running out of cash because of lawsuits over pedophilia. Lets take a look at this whole thing as one picture.

  Here is the sequence of events in the last six months or so. Feel free to fill in or change the order of events if I've left anything out or placed something in wrong order.

  1.New headquarters to be built in Wakhill,upstate NY. NY city prime properties sold for a bizzare reasons. NWT undergoes changes.

  2.Then they open their game with a strange proclaimation. That is a hundred- odd new KH's required to be built. Reason given is just as cockscrewed as the other reasons for previous action. 73 ( approx no.) KH needed in California. 29 or 31( again approx.) in Florida and some more around the country. Wild search (rumoured by elders) for properties to build on. No real buys reported.

  3.WT articles directing devotees to blindly obey any and all directions from the GB regardless of sanity. They followed this with a sudden change in the donation pattern. Four-page letter sent only one read out to the village.

  4. Imediately or in conjunction with the change of donation pattern an autocratic hierarchical order brought into play (CO's; DO's ). R&F kept in suspense about exact future plans.

  5. Sudden increase in Public talks geared around Apostates, Satan's influence and of course the Nobility of the GB/FDS/WBTS.

  6.Conventions have GB members giving the main talks pre-recorded .

  7. !00 th anniversary of 1914 dogma.

  Analysts? What could be other plausible conclusions from this scenario apart from “ money grab”; “Running scared”; “ Paying for pedo-fornicating pleasures.”. Is there a pattern emerging that replicates another successful cult or church?
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  If you reject the existence of the soul then you are an Animist?

  by Seraphim23 in

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  2. friends

  the classic debate between those who believe that consciousness is merely the result of the operation of the brain, and those who believe that it is apart from the brain, like the idea of a soul or the classic dualistic distinction between mind and body, is a well-known one.. however the thought has occurred that when people try to convince me that the soul cannot be real; soul in the sense of consciousness being a separate thing to the operation of the brain, then really the materialistic non spiritual view is in fact a rehash of animism, strange as that might sound.. animism is the idea that soul, spirit, consciousness, or whatever it might be called, exists in plants, animals, things, objects, places or basically in everything and anything in the material world.

  the view of some is that very primitive cultures had this wide category of spiritual belief, which eventually evolved into the all the religions, faiths and spiritualties of today.

  some of the faiths of modern times are not defined as animistic because these draw a distinction between soul and body or in modern parlance, consciousness and brain.. so in very ancient times, at the dawn of human spiritual belief, the sun, for example, rising and setting was seen not so much as being caused by the proverbial spaghetti monster but as being the proverbial spaghetti monster.

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  How about Lucid dreaming?
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  Coping with becoming an atheist?

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. friends

  its been a very eye opening experience for me to find out that the god of the bible is as real as thor or ra.

  i still believe a higher power created life but can see now how it doesn't really care about us.

  so with this in mind realizing one has only 70-80 years to live and that may be just it, is very stunning..

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  Hairtrigger

  Satanus -you beat me to it

  Thanks for the elucidation.
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  Coping with becoming an atheist?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its been a very eye opening experience for me to find out that the god of the bible is as real as thor or ra.

  i still believe a higher power created life but can see now how it doesn't really care about us.

  so with this in mind realizing one has only 70-80 years to live and that may be just it, is very stunning..

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  Hairtrigger

  God is someone you worship, thank, be grateful he/she/it created you etc. etc.

  I used the word "creator. Requiring no worship or acknowledgement.