can you believe the presumption?.
https://youtu.be/1mamt-krcnc.
https://youtu.be/wjnk-mr_860.
Truth-b-known
was there ever written records of the apostolic succession? And if there were where are they now?
I know the Catholic Church touts the Apostolic Succession idea a lot and justifies the position of the Pope. But is there any irrefutable evidence that authenticates this ?
can you believe the presumption?.
https://youtu.be/1mamt-krcnc.
https://youtu.be/wjnk-mr_860.
“... there are Catholic priests living today who can trace...”
Could you elaborate please?
i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.
what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.
when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".
Nitty- Gritty
My argument is based on the hush- hush manner in which the raising of the dead was done.- or said it was done. Why couldn’t it be done in the presence of Roman rulership? Where it could have been a witness to JC and n effect Big J’s greatness and divinity?
i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.
what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.
when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".
The resurrection:
JC is supposed to have resurrected two people from the dead during his supposed lifetime? Or was it three? Forget his own resurrection.
Never before in the history of the human race was anything so magical and astonishing ever performed. Witnesses who saw the first bring—back -from the dead must have been amazed and news of this should have spread like wildfire across the Roman world. Roman leaders would have made inquiries and sought to bear out the veracity of this occurrence. But ? Zilch. No one outside the small circle of the affected ever got to know of this. Next was Lazarus. Again the Roman world remained oblivious to this great artists performance. Why? Just one witness to the Roman leaders would have turned the whole Roman Empire Christian. Christians would not be fed to the lions in the arena, he would not have to be crucified , his message would have been taken really seriously by all and imposed by the Emperor and books would have been written with all he had to say and would have saved the world a lot of grief and bloodshed. There would be no need for his death and resurrection the latter of which was again witnessed by a dubious number.
And what was the purpose in resurrecting Lazarus and the boy? According to the beliefs laid down by the church and the GB death pays for our sins. Resurrection cleanses us and tests us for a thousand years. Shouldn’t the two of them been living for a thousand years after they were brought back to life. No they died again? Isn’t that against big J’s laws ? Are we to assume Lazarus old boy sinned against his god after being resurrected as well as the little boy? And that’s why they died forever and will never be resurrected again? Why a separate set of rules for the two and another one for the rest of mankind?Looks like the Bible and the church and the GB invented each other’s BS.
has anyone turned it down or know of someone who did turn down being an elder or ms?.
yes, it should be one of the biggest privileges a brother can get !!
(how do i put the barfy icon in?
I was offered MS at my last Cong. By that time I had already lost all belief in the Bible. Meetings were irregular. Didn’t turn in feild reports for more than six months . Just quit one day and never went back.
today, it will be 90 degrees and humid!
this morning i’ll be playing tennis again.
while most people have been holed up in their houses, i have regularly played the sport outside.
I have Been wearing one ever since I was born. They call me pokerface!!!
Fcuk the song!
this is a topic that i find really interesting- how the bible, in particular, the new testament was compiled and how the jw organisation strives to negate, scoff at and diminish the influence of the catholic church in its development.. here is the official stance of the org: .
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1963/april-15.
'the roman catholic church claims responsibility for the decision as to which books should be included in the canon, and reference is made to the councils of hippo (a.d. 393) and carthage (a.d. 397), where catalogues of books were formulated.
Thank you JJ for resurrecting this .
A “Must read”, . Will make for a very valuable and informative weekend.
so if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?
did adam invent swords?
more bible non sense garbage.
He got it up his ass when he got kicked out of He-den!
besides growing up in the religion, why do you think people turn to jehovah’s witnesses?
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what made you become a witness?
I was born into a Catholic family. Believed the Bible was the word of God. Found the CC wasn’t following the Bible and left off going to church by the time I was 20.
A JW at my place of work began telling me truths about theCC and I fell for their BS. But I still hesitated to join them as a lot of what they said didn’t make sense. Stayed away from them but kept in contact with the JW who initiated me into their bs.
Fast forward about 23 years and he gave the the revelation book. I read it and felt it was the Truth Decided to get baptized. In 2008. Seven years later I figured out it was all BS. Walked away. And Guess what. The man who brought me in? He’s walked away too. Took me two years . He was shocked at what he discovered . Now he is free too. That is irony for you!
good day believing brothers and sisters, .
i have to inform about latest information concerning the set up of a global authority.
we have waited un to be empowered.
Kisonen
please dont think I am trying to insult you but you sound like a broken heart who is desperately trying to kiss and make up with the GB and your congregation .
What happens to your theories when a vaccine is discovered and Covid - 19 becomes another commonplace virus?
How many more times will you try fitting a cliched round peg into a hole squared by the GB? All scriptures quoted by you has It’s copyrighted original with the GB . Just quibbling with their interpretation- and insinuating yours- renders the whole thing doubly dubious and insultingly puerile. Insulting puerile to our intelligence I mean. If you are so confident your interpretation of the scriptures is right what will you have to say once you are proven wrong.will you have the moral courage to appear here and say that your conjectures were wrong based on hubris rather than any real divine insight or will you - like your paramour the GB - make excuses like “I am really disappointed that this did not come to pass . I will pray to Jim jack and joe for better enlightenment in the future.
Like the GB , either you are a true prophet or a false on. Do you have the moral courage to stand up and declare you will have been a false prophet once your scriptural conjecture vi-a-vis world events do not come to pass?
A prostitute sells her body for money. The GB is the ranking whore that is selling itself for the wealth of the world. You my friend are lying with the whore right now . Arguing, and whispering sweet nothings into her ear. Just to get back into bed with her. Stop being enamored by her charms. To quote your scriptures,”Get out from Among her my people .. for her sins have piled up to the heavens....
here’s hoping you see the true light!!
