Posts by Onager

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New here..help greatly appreciated

by Confusedandangry in

hi everyone i don't even know where to begin.

i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.

i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.

Onager

Hi!

As others have said, you need to be cautious now. Planning a course of action now could reap benefits that last you the rest of your life.

The teachings of the JW organisation are like a verruca growing into your foot. If you don't carefully excise it, using the right treatments and just a tiny bit remains, then it can come back again time after time.

If you act instinctively and start thrashing about you will scare and alienate your friends and family who are still JW's... like someone with a verruca running into a swimming pool changing room and screaming "I have a verruca!"

If, after thinking about it, you still want to lash out then go for it! But please consider the fading option first.

Good luck!

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Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

by smiddy in

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is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

Onager

I think they serve a purpose as Outlaw said, but the thing I don't want to see is threads topping the latest and hottest lists with titles like "Jehovah God Exists" or the like. It's sneaky proselytising and I worry that it could kick off cognitive dissonance in someone trying to escape.

I don't have a solution mind you, unless Simon fancies policing every thread and changing the titles of Pro JW threads and I wouldn't wish that task on a broke dick dog.

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I spoke to 2 Jobos on a cart but I refused to discuss religion

by punkofnice in

i was in a good mood yesterday (makes a bloody change, i hear you say).

i was meeting an old buddy for a meal.

he was never a jobo.

Onager

fukitol 18 hours ago

Its Johos not Jobos.

freddo 16 hours ago

In the UK "Jobos" is used.

Oh GREAT! Another Schism!

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I am a Living Time Machine

by TerryWalstrom in

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which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

everywhere you found telephone booths!

a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

Onager

I was reading "Bridget Jones' Diary" recently (don't ask why!) and the entire drama of the section I read was made up of her missing a phone call from a bloke. She hung around her flat waiting for the call. She popped to the loo and the phone rang and she missed the call etc etc.

Today her phone would be in her pocket, not her flat and she wouldn't ever miss a call she didn't want to!

So much of history is made up of dramatic events that rely on communication not getting through on time or getting garbled. Think of the Charge of the Light Brigade. That whole sorry mess could have been avoided by a simple text: "Cardigan, don't charge straight at the guns. Lolz!"

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Old people ask ... questions ... no answers

by Lostandfound in

just random questions for the book questions old people ask.

when can i stop donating my last penny every month to the wt?.

when can i have sex with no guilty conscience due to wt teachings?.

Onager

Old People Ask: Are those my feet?

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Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?

by stuckinarut2 in

as we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".. they feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left jehovah's organization".. of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation.

they may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

however through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.. this sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.. but what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?.

Onager

"Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?"

Probably.

Fuck them and fuck the horses they ride.

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Uk members ?

by midnight in

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friends

hi anyone from the uk ?

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Onager

Gloucestershire, like fokyc...

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New year, new resolutions. Feels strange being out after so many years but wonderful at the same time!

by kpop in

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my first time posting here but i have seen links to this site and clicked when i was doing research about the jw's.

i don't think you want to hear about my long boring story how i was raised a jw in south korea and moved with my family to the usa before i turned 16. like most of us ex-jw's and faders and dis-fellowshiped jw's we all have about the same story.

the only difference is now how i living my life.

Onager

"Now I begin with my new years resolutions. I have a long list. Celebrate Christmas is on the top. Can you guess the others?"

Watch nature documentaries and agree loudly when they talk about how an animal evolved.

Go to a Renaissance fair, (you're in the US right?) drink too much mead, slap a wench on the behind and fight a duel.

Shoot a deer and drink its blood like in "Red Dawn".

Smoke one cigarette and then NEVER SMOKE AGAIN because that shit is addictive bro, I can tell you. (still struggling).

Go see an R rated movie.

Listen to AC\DC, or whatever takes your fancy, so loud your ears fly off.

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Why do some Jehovah's Witnesses choose to be atheist or agnostic?

by Cassaruby in

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"traumatic as the initial transition may be, it can lead to the development of a truly personal relationship with these two greatest friends [the father and the son] .

.. "whatever sense of 'belonging' that membership in some religious system may create, it can never compare with the power and beauty and strengthening benefit of the intimate personal relationship the scripture presents .

from reading joseph campbell i've come to understand that there are functions to religion or mythology.

Onager

Atheism isn't a choice, it's a conclusion.

It's a conclusion that leaves you open to making many different choices though.

Work things out on your own.

Work things out with other people.

Ignore it all and just get on with your life.

Become an activist and join other like minded people in attacking religion.

Decide you were wrong and start worshipping Dagoth the dreaming god...

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How long did people like Methuselah really live?

by dubstepped in

i was working today and my brain was working in circles like it often does and i started wondering about what i was always told about people like methuselah in bible times, and their incredibly claims of longevity.

i've tried researching things but have a hard time getting through all of the bible thumpers to some real evidence, and figured that some here may be more informed or have done the research previously.

so, did people really live longer way back when?

Onager

I think it was the Sumerians who carved on their monuments that king such and such reigned for 1,000 years and king so and so reigned for 5,000 years. Basically it was one-upmanship bragging. So when the bible writers were making up their list of patriarchs they had to get in on the action otherwise their patriarchs would seem lame in comparison.

There was a chap on the James Randi forums that explained it all. I think his forum name was Marduk. you can still read those forums although they've moved.