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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

  wow.

  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  Onager

  Jeffro, you would do well to remember 1Cor 13:1 - "If I post three times in a row in a thread, but have not love, I have become a sounding brass or a clanging cymbal."

  You've posted FIVE times. You're too invested in proving your point in an argument that you say doesn't matter.

  For what it's worth I agree with your position, while there is evidence, there is no proof. I, however, am happy to wait for the further investigations of ILoveTTATT2 to see what other interesting information they can dig up.
  

  
  
  
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  Conditional Love

  by Saethydd in

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  i've noticed several posts recently claiming that jw friends and family members give out conditional love.

  well, i'm not so sure that is entirely accurate, in fact, i would say they tend to be very steadfast in their love.

  the issue is this, they have been taught a poor form of love.

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  Onager

  What you are describing that thing they have, and that god has, is not love! It's practically the opposite of love... it's evol.

  "Love is not love
  Which alters when it alteration finds,
  Or bends with the remover to remove:
  O no; it is an ever-fixed mark,
  That looks on tempests, and is never shaken;"

  That's Shakespeare that is!
  
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  My families shunning has gone to a whole new level

  by pale.emperor in

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  8 months df'd.

  loving a life of freedom.

  however, my family are all shunning me.

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  P.E. Do you know any of the Non-JW's that your mother has told that you are dead? Might be worth dropping in on them and saying hi. If nothing else, it will highlight just how truly fucked up your mothers behaviour is.

  Cutting off contact in NO way makes you as bad as the witnesses! You are being subjected to abusive behaviour and are completely within your rights to take that whole toxic ball of string and throw it away.
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  New here..help greatly appreciated

  by Confusedandangry in

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  hi everyone i don't even know where to begin.

  i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.

  i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.

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  Onager

  Hi!

  As others have said, you need to be cautious now. Planning a course of action now could reap benefits that last you the rest of your life.

  The teachings of the JW organisation are like a verruca growing into your foot. If you don't carefully excise it, using the right treatments and just a tiny bit remains, then it can come back again time after time.

  If you act instinctively and start thrashing about you will scare and alienate your friends and family who are still JW's... like someone with a verruca running into a swimming pool changing room and screaming "I have a verruca!"

  If, after thinking about it, you still want to lash out then go for it! But please consider the fading option first.

  Good luck!
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  Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

  by smiddy in

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  is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

  from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

  why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

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  Onager

  I think they serve a purpose as Outlaw said, but the thing I don't want to see is threads topping the latest and hottest lists with titles like "Jehovah God Exists" or the like. It's sneaky proselytising and I worry that it could kick off cognitive dissonance in someone trying to escape.

  I don't have a solution mind you, unless Simon fancies policing every thread and changing the titles of Pro JW threads and I wouldn't wish that task on a broke dick dog.
  
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  I spoke to 2 Jobos on a cart but I refused to discuss religion

  by punkofnice in

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  i was in a good mood yesterday (makes a bloody change, i hear you say).

  i was meeting an old buddy for a meal.

  he was never a jobo.

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  fukitol 18 hours ago
  

  Its Johos not Jobos.

  freddo 16 hours ago
  

  In the UK "Jobos" is used.

  Oh GREAT! Another Schism!
  
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  I am a Living Time Machine

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  I was reading "Bridget Jones' Diary" recently (don't ask why!) and the entire drama of the section I read was made up of her missing a phone call from a bloke. She hung around her flat waiting for the call. She popped to the loo and the phone rang and she missed the call etc etc.

  Today her phone would be in her pocket, not her flat and she wouldn't ever miss a call she didn't want to!

  So much of history is made up of dramatic events that rely on communication not getting through on time or getting garbled. Think of the Charge of the Light Brigade. That whole sorry mess could have been avoided by a simple text: "Cardigan, don't charge straight at the guns. Lolz!"
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  Old people ask ... questions ... no answers

  by Lostandfound in

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  just random questions for the book questions old people ask.

  when can i stop donating my last penny every month to the wt?.

  when can i have sex with no guilty conscience due to wt teachings?.

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  Old People Ask: Are those my feet?
  
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  Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  as we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".. they feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left jehovah's organization".. of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation.

  they may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

  however through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.. this sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.. but what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?.

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  Onager

  "Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?"

  Probably.

  Fuck them and fuck the horses they ride.
  
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  Uk members ?

  by midnight in

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  hi anyone from the uk ?

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  Onager

  Gloucestershire, like fokyc...