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  May I ask for help about Egyptian chronology and Neolithic settlements?

  by paradiseseeker in

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  one of the first things that shook my faith as a teenager was learning about egypt and how its history goes back as far as 3500 bc, much earlier than the flood.

  also learning about the first settlements like çatalhöyük, which flourished around 7500 bc, much earlier than the creation of adam.

  the only answer i got from my mother was that this world is dominated by satan and thus we cannot trust in worldly chronologies.

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  I'd like to give a double like to Half Banana's post! Fascinating, thank you.
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  Why did the Governing Body come behind the curtain?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the movie the wizard of oz, while the whole yellow brick road gang was being addressed by the great and powerful wizard of oz, the dog toto ran off to the side, pulled back on a curtain, and showed that a normal-looking humbug of a person was operating cranks and levers.

  for a short while, the normal-looking man kept yanking levers and cranking cranks, and said into the microphone (which made the great and powerful wizard speak the same words) "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

  i am the great and powerful wiz .

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  The title of this thread really needs a "From" after the word "Curtain". As it is, it reads like the worst Porno ever.
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  An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

  two of which are life drawing and photography.

  i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

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  Just to say that here in the UK the nudity taboo is still pretty strong. There are very few nudist beaches (that I'm aware of) in the UK mostly because if you expose your breasts in the UK they will immediately become:

  a) Waterlogged

  b) Frozen

  and c) Blown off by gale force winds.
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  Watchtower and Awake in the cafeteria of my work place

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  someone at my workplace, i don't know who, is a jw and has been leaving magazines in the cafeteria.

  any suggestion as to what i could do?

  i thought of writing up a note stating: "to whoever is bringing these magazine: jw have broken up my family, please don't bring religion to work.

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  Anything stopping you binning them?
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  Anyone struggle to find meaning in life?

  by Good JW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?

  when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.

  i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).

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  When you're eating a pie, do you not enjoy the pie because soon you will have finished eating the pie and the pie will be no more?

  Life is a pie. Eat it. Savour it. Enjoy it.
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  An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

  two of which are life drawing and photography.

  i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

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  Nice beaver.
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  My fading suffered a miscarriage

  by Ireneus in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought of successfully fading out, but suffered a miscarriage last week.

  i gradually decreased the number of meetings i attended.

  in the latter half of the year it became once a month, then once in two months, once in three months ….. last week, two elders who visited me, after their bla..bla..asked: “where will you go leaving the motherly organization—the only truth now available on earth?”.

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  Hi, you could say that I successfully faded, I've not been disfellowshipped after all. Despite this however, of all the people that I grew up with and knew for 30 years only ONE of them has any contact with me now. All of the others have proved themselves false friends. As you don't have any family in the organisation my advice would be to walk away now. There's not really any point in fading or playing by their rules, as soon as it is known that you aren't 100% on board you will be effectively shunned anyway.
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  George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. entertainment

  just thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.

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  as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .

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  I haven't seen TLJ and I never will. I also have never seen the 3rd film of the prequels, what's it called? Dude Where's My Deathstar? By the time I had watched the second prequel I was so disillusioned that I decided to watch the third on dvd. Then the Vader "Noooooooooo" memes appeared and I thought "Nope."

  Similarly, after Force Awakens, I thought I would read some reviews of TLJ first and it was clear from them that the rot had set in. So I am done with the Franchise, mostly because it so clearly IS a franchise now and not a labour of love. I say this as someone who was such a fan originally that I even defended Ewok Adventure: Caravan of Courage to the naysayers.

  So in my world the Star Wars universe is made up of the original trilogy, including RotJ. For prequels I have the Han Solo at Star's end books and for a sequel, and S***t's and giggles, I include the Splinter in the Minds Eye book. I like to think that Luke and Leia knew that they were siblings at that point, but just didn't care and went ahead with the steamy snogging.
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  Introduce myself

  by dantoole87 in

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  i'd like share why i went from being a teenager determined to work in full time service for jehovah my entire life, to now being on here commiserating with you all.

  i use to be an atheist but i now believe in god.

  but i'm not preachy about god.

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  dantoole873 days ago3 days ago

  Onager

  I had a real experience with God's spirit and I believe he is active in my life. But I have given up on trying to convince atheists that God exists. It's a non-sequitur IMO. You either experience God in your life or you don't. I'll never go back to creationism and I don't even know if I believe in an afterlife. It's a completely subjective experience that has enriched my life personally.

  That being said, I still will listen to atheist podcasts and look for natural explanations to the world around me. I believe in a power that is greater than us. No labels, no special claims, and no magic incantations. I just know that this God exists and knows me personally. Because isn't that the frustrating part, when hardcore theists try to shove their subjective experiences down your throat?

  Hi Dan,

  Thanks for the reply. Would you agree that the problem isn't belief, but religion? I respect your belief and your right to have that belief, as I think you respect mine. People believing different things isn't bad, in fact it's inevitable!

  The problems come when people use belief to control others and influence society to conform to their beliefs.

  Christopher Hitchens goes into this in great detail in his book "God is not Great: How religion posions everything." Which is a really bad title as it doesn't really address God at all, but is almost entirely concerned with religion.

  I think that a Theistic belief such as yours cannot fall into the negative category because it has no agenda. It's only when people try to get other people to believe the same under the threat of eternal destruction that there is a problem. Or if they try to get their beliefs taught in schools, or try to influence government policy, or any of the countless ways that religion poisons everything.

  Cheers,

  Onager
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  Silly Bible Stories we once believed

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these bible stories are too silly to be true.

  take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

  telling !.

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  I was going to post about Samson and the 300 foxes, but smiddy3 beat me to it. I mean, seriously! You would need to have a fox shop nearby. Not a little corner shop either, a massive superstore specialising entirely in live foxes. Three HUNDRED foxes.