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  The fly doesn't know it's in a bottle....

  by dubstepped in

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  ... the walls are transparent.

  so if you want to help the fly escape you first have to convince the fly that it's in a bottle, and only then can it find its way out.

  that is taken from this american life episode 635 called "chip in my brain".

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  Onager

  Thanks for the recommendation. It was a fascinating listen!
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  I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

  by Heathen Dan in

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  this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

  first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

  since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

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  Onager

  Welcome! Your brother sounds like a great guy. I hope you two have a great time running through the fields of freedom!
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  Crisis of Conscience where to find?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?

  i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.

  thank you.. -jules.

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  Onager

  The issue I have with Window Cleaning isn't one of class. There are three main problems:

  1) It's socially isolating.

  Unlike most jobs you have very limited contact with other people. If you work with other people then they will be JW's as well. Interaction with householders is brief.

  2) It offers no skill advancement

  Once you have learned the skill of window cleaning you never need to learn anything else. You don't start as an apprentice cleaner, spend years learning the trade and become an expert. Also it doesn't teach any skills that can transfer to a better career. I call window cleaning the velvet trap, because you can earn decent money, but you can't escape.

  3) There is no security in older age

  You do not get a decent pension as a window cleaner and every year your joints get a little bit stiffer but you have to keep on working.

  You may turn your window cleaning round into a successful business and start employing other JW's and eventually have an income without having to hump a ladder yourself, but in order to achieve that you have to bend the JW rules and ignore the whispering as you pursue a "materialistic" goal. So it's not the people that are the issue, it's the job itself.
  
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  May I ask for help about Egyptian chronology and Neolithic settlements?

  by paradiseseeker in

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  one of the first things that shook my faith as a teenager was learning about egypt and how its history goes back as far as 3500 bc, much earlier than the flood.

  also learning about the first settlements like çatalhöyük, which flourished around 7500 bc, much earlier than the creation of adam.

  the only answer i got from my mother was that this world is dominated by satan and thus we cannot trust in worldly chronologies.

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  Onager

  I'd like to give a double like to Half Banana's post! Fascinating, thank you.
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  Why did the Governing Body come behind the curtain?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the movie the wizard of oz, while the whole yellow brick road gang was being addressed by the great and powerful wizard of oz, the dog toto ran off to the side, pulled back on a curtain, and showed that a normal-looking humbug of a person was operating cranks and levers.

  for a short while, the normal-looking man kept yanking levers and cranking cranks, and said into the microphone (which made the great and powerful wizard speak the same words) "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

  i am the great and powerful wiz .

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  Onager

  The title of this thread really needs a "From" after the word "Curtain". As it is, it reads like the worst Porno ever.
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  An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

  two of which are life drawing and photography.

  i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

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  Onager

  Just to say that here in the UK the nudity taboo is still pretty strong. There are very few nudist beaches (that I'm aware of) in the UK mostly because if you expose your breasts in the UK they will immediately become:

  a) Waterlogged

  b) Frozen

  and c) Blown off by gale force winds.
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  Watchtower and Awake in the cafeteria of my work place

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  someone at my workplace, i don't know who, is a jw and has been leaving magazines in the cafeteria.

  any suggestion as to what i could do?

  i thought of writing up a note stating: "to whoever is bringing these magazine: jw have broken up my family, please don't bring religion to work.

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  Anything stopping you binning them?
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  Anyone struggle to find meaning in life?

  by Good JW in

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  2. experiences

  just wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?

  when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.

  i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).

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  When you're eating a pie, do you not enjoy the pie because soon you will have finished eating the pie and the pie will be no more?

  Life is a pie. Eat it. Savour it. Enjoy it.
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  An Active JW Sister Modelling For Me

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since leaving the borg i jumped both feet first into classes i've always wanted to do but was never "allowed" to.

  two of which are life drawing and photography.

  i've been studying for almost two years now and have seen more nude men and women in our classes than i care to remember.. today in the photography studio i was working in with three others (two women, one man) we were told we had a new person modelling for us.

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  Onager

  Nice beaver.
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  My fading suffered a miscarriage

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought of successfully fading out, but suffered a miscarriage last week.

  i gradually decreased the number of meetings i attended.

  in the latter half of the year it became once a month, then once in two months, once in three months ….. last week, two elders who visited me, after their bla..bla..asked: “where will you go leaving the motherly organization—the only truth now available on earth?”.

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  Onager

  Hi, you could say that I successfully faded, I've not been disfellowshipped after all. Despite this however, of all the people that I grew up with and knew for 30 years only ONE of them has any contact with me now. All of the others have proved themselves false friends. As you don't have any family in the organisation my advice would be to walk away now. There's not really any point in fading or playing by their rules, as soon as it is known that you aren't 100% on board you will be effectively shunned anyway.