Posts by Onager

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Apostate driven lies

by pleaseresearch in

ok guys and gals.. let's have them.

as horrible as this may be i really want to see a few examples.

all my life i was taught that apostates just spread lies and falsehoods.. yet since i have left the organisation and looked deeply into apostate articles.

Onager

You mean lies or falsehoods about the JW's I'm assuming?

That sort of thing is most likely to be about individuals and personal grievances rather than ideology and teachings. I don't know of any but I imagine it would be something like:

"All the elders in congregation X are drunkards and their wives are gossips."

I suppose you could have a statement like "Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Christmas because they secretly celebrate Satan's birthday." But I've never heard anyone deliberately lying about JW beliefs. Why would you need to when their beliefs are obviously nonsense anyway?

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JWs on campus

by Sarabethy in

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it's my first time on this site though i am no stranger in the ex-jw community.

i come to you now asking for your assistance in what to present to the dean of students at my university.. why am i meeting with dean of students, you may ask?

because today, while innocently finishing an assignment in the school library, i happened to look out the window and see the jws with their stupid little cart.

Onager

Is there a group or religion that is already banned from advertising on campus, a group like the Moonies maybe? If so, what similarities are there between the JW's and the banned groups?

I just went on the University of Alaska Southeast to see if I could find out any info, but got totally sidetracked by the page on Bear safety! How cool is it that the health and safety policy has 5 pages on Bears! I'm going to take this advice to heart:

"Fight any black bear regardless of circumstances."

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses always answer questions through the bible?

by MarieChii in

hi.. recently i've been researching jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs and found out that they don't believe in blood transfusions.

so, i've asked one of my friends who is a jw as to what is the reason for this, and so far, they had always directed me to a bible verse that is in their bible.. clearly, i wasn't getting anywhere and so far, it's pretty much frustrating to even make my friend give me reasonable reason.

when i was getting somewhere, even a smidgen, they would answer with a question.

Onager

smiddy3an hour agoan hour agoThe stock answer by many J.W`s is" OH I wouldn`t use fractions of blood"{many do of course } they miss the point .The GB of J.W`s has said it`s o.k to do so ?

Yep, that's what my JW's say. It highlights that under that Global brotherhood of Unity veneer the real attitude is "I'm alright Jack".

Some JW's may accept blood fractions (and burn at Armageddon) but I'm a true JW and I'll be fine, sort of thing.

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Learning New Words

by compound complex in

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greetings, fellow lexophiles:.

last night, i watched a cool road movie, the trip, with steve coogan and rob brydon.

they were counseled by steve's dad to take an "anticlockwise" route home, rather than the clockwise one steve had proposed.

Onager

I'm mad about moths. In French, moths are called Papillon de nuit which is butterflies of the night.

I was using Google translate to translate a German website about moths once and it translated the word for caterpillar into "Crawler vehicle", which I have called them ever since!

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An honest look at the situation

by Formerbrother in

i was brought up in the truth.

i saw a lot unchristian things going on in my local body of elders, my dad was an elder and waiting outside elders meetings to go home with my mum and other wives, we sometimes heard raised voices in the 2nd school.

the other mums would raise their voices as well thinking of something to say to hide the elders 'private' arguments.. my dad hated it all, i think he hated having to keep things secret from my mum and me.. anyway, i got baptised, and as we did back then didnt think about further education but instead pioneered.

Onager

Hi Formerbrother,

I was a window cleaner like yourself when I was in my mid 20's, and still a JW, but I had the great fortune to fall off my ladder and fracture my back. Because of that accident I was able to get free back-to-work training so I took all the computing courses I could which led to my first office job and for the next 20 years I have been continuously employed in jobs with pension contributions, paid holiday and sick days and all the other benefits.

Because of my JW upbringing I never went to university or even Sixth form, but I am now a database developer with a lot of experience.

I don't advise the falling off a ladder approach but I would say to get on some college courses and get out of window cleaning. If you love window cleaning then maybe look at small business management and bookkeeping courses and become a window cleaning company manager and build an empire!

Why do you still go to meetings? Do you like being beaten with a stick?

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On and off again JW girlfriend

by Crzysin in

hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.

each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.

i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.

Onager

Thoughts:

DO. NOT. GET. BAPTISED.

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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?

by Jules Saturn in

i was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.

he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.

i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.

Onager

You know there's a reason that in all the films about dystopian totalitarian societies the hero is trying to escape\bring down said totalitarian society? They're not a good thing!

There's usually a character in the film who is happy being a slave. Think about the man in the Matrix eating steak and smoking a cigar. That's a PIMO that's happier being IN. He knows about the matrix, he know's it's not real, but he's happy eating up the lies.

Don't be that guy. Be Neo!

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How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.

by stuckinarut2 in

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so many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.

they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?

to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.

Onager

cha ching8 hours ago8 hours agoI understand what you are saying scratchme.... I kind of feel the same way.... I know how JWs think…
But........
Like stuckinarut was musing... I want to have a retort ready, to blast them if they ask. Kind of a 'damned if they do, and damned if they don't" kind of answer. I don’t like being left speechless, like I just got hit on the head.
My JW uber duber sister, with an elder for a husband, came up to me as I came to clean my JW mother's house, and announced to me:
"I just want you to know. We know you are not disfellowshipped, but you don't believe in the name of Jehovah. You are an apostate, and we ARE going to shun you"

One possible answer could be:

"It is incredibly rude to tell a person what they believe. If you dictate my beliefs to me again I swear I will S**t in your screaming mouth. Now F**k off back in your box you glassy-eyed C**kwomble."

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Can the Borg tell what sites I've been to?

by purrpurr in

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if i go to the jw website and then afterward to say this website, is it likely that the jw website has then tracked what websites i go to after visiting theirs?.

i don't know how cookies work btw .

Onager

If I was a JW or cared I would be worried too. The internet is a weird black box machine that I have no idea how it works, but I do know that if I go on Amazon and search for Shaun the sheep movie dvd's and then go onto Facebook, the adverts are Shaun the sheep related. So you are carrying some kind of data "stink" around with you when you travel the internet. I believe that deleting cookies or private browsing stops this happening. It's internet deodorant...

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Secret Societies involved at the very top of the Org

by Formerbrother in

are all the gb members past and present, part of skulls and bones and other masonic secret societies?

we know the first few top brass were, like br rutherford and br russel.. they all have several expensive watches.

like literally more than one for everyday of the week, rolex and omega, where did they come from?

Onager

I think all that bling is explained by the GB having access to all the donations from the JW community. No need for secret societies, just normal human greed.