I'm sorry that you're going through this EdenOne. My wife is Bipolar and I seriously underestimated how much of an impact it was going to have on our relationship. With everything else that's been thrown at you as well I think you're a legend for keeping going as long as you have.
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Another marriage bites the dust ...
by EdenOne in... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.
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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
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Jewish God Yahweh Originated in Canaanite Vulcan, Says New Theory
by greek inthe cult of yhwh as god of metallurgy originated among semi-nomadic copper smelters between the bronze and iron age, suggests biblical scholar: and he was not worshipped only by jews.. https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.magazine-jewish-god-yahweh-originated-in-canaanite-vulcan-says-new-theory-1.5992072.
according to amzallag, long before becoming the deity of the israelites, yahweh was a god of metallurgy in the ancient canaanite pantheon, worshipped by smelters and metalworkers throughout the levant, not just by the hebrews.
where did the yhwh cult originate?
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Onager
Argh! The article is behind a paywall!
Can you say what the links are to Yaweh in the bible and copper smelting and metallurgy? I always thought that the Yahweh origins were more flood \ water based?
Also there's an anti-settled civilisation or pro-nomadic theme to a lot of the biblical Yaweh's laws (emphasis on tents, prohibition on pork which have to be reared in settlements unlike sheep and goats etc.). Wouldn't copper smelting also require settlements with furnaces and smithy buildings?
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Apostate driven lies
by pleaseresearch inok guys and gals.. let's have them.
as horrible as this may be i really want to see a few examples.
all my life i was taught that apostates just spread lies and falsehoods.. yet since i have left the organisation and looked deeply into apostate articles.
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Onager
You mean lies or falsehoods about the JW's I'm assuming?
That sort of thing is most likely to be about individuals and personal grievances rather than ideology and teachings. I don't know of any but I imagine it would be something like:
"All the elders in congregation X are drunkards and their wives are gossips."
I suppose you could have a statement like "Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Christmas because they secretly celebrate Satan's birthday." But I've never heard anyone deliberately lying about JW beliefs. Why would you need to when their beliefs are obviously nonsense anyway?
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JWs on campus
by Sarabethy init's my first time on this site though i am no stranger in the ex-jw community.
i come to you now asking for your assistance in what to present to the dean of students at my university.. why am i meeting with dean of students, you may ask?
because today, while innocently finishing an assignment in the school library, i happened to look out the window and see the jws with their stupid little cart.
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Onager
Is there a group or religion that is already banned from advertising on campus, a group like the Moonies maybe? If so, what similarities are there between the JW's and the banned groups?
I just went on the University of Alaska Southeast to see if I could find out any info, but got totally sidetracked by the page on Bear safety! How cool is it that the health and safety policy has 5 pages on Bears! I'm going to take this advice to heart:
"Fight any black bear regardless of circumstances."
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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses always answer questions through the bible?
by MarieChii inhi.. recently i've been researching jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs and found out that they don't believe in blood transfusions.
so, i've asked one of my friends who is a jw as to what is the reason for this, and so far, they had always directed me to a bible verse that is in their bible.. clearly, i wasn't getting anywhere and so far, it's pretty much frustrating to even make my friend give me reasonable reason.
when i was getting somewhere, even a smidgen, they would answer with a question.
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Onager
smiddy3an hour agoan hour agoThe stock answer by many J.W`s is" OH I wouldn`t use fractions of blood"{many do of course } they miss the point .The GB of J.W`s has said it`s o.k to do so ?
Yep, that's what my JW's say. It highlights that under that Global brotherhood of Unity veneer the real attitude is "I'm alright Jack".
Some JW's may accept blood fractions (and burn at Armageddon) but I'm a true JW and I'll be fine, sort of thing.
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Learning New Words
by compound complex ingreetings, fellow lexophiles:.
last night, i watched a cool road movie, the trip, with steve coogan and rob brydon.
they were counseled by steve's dad to take an "anticlockwise" route home, rather than the clockwise one steve had proposed.
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Onager
I'm mad about moths. In French, moths are called Papillon de nuit which is butterflies of the night.
I was using Google translate to translate a German website about moths once and it translated the word for caterpillar into "Crawler vehicle", which I have called them ever since!
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An honest look at the situation
by Formerbrother ini was brought up in the truth.
i saw a lot unchristian things going on in my local body of elders, my dad was an elder and waiting outside elders meetings to go home with my mum and other wives, we sometimes heard raised voices in the 2nd school.
the other mums would raise their voices as well thinking of something to say to hide the elders 'private' arguments.. my dad hated it all, i think he hated having to keep things secret from my mum and me.. anyway, i got baptised, and as we did back then didnt think about further education but instead pioneered.
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Onager
Hi Formerbrother,
I was a window cleaner like yourself when I was in my mid 20's, and still a JW, but I had the great fortune to fall off my ladder and fracture my back. Because of that accident I was able to get free back-to-work training so I took all the computing courses I could which led to my first office job and for the next 20 years I have been continuously employed in jobs with pension contributions, paid holiday and sick days and all the other benefits.
Because of my JW upbringing I never went to university or even Sixth form, but I am now a database developer with a lot of experience.
I don't advise the falling off a ladder approach but I would say to get on some college courses and get out of window cleaning. If you love window cleaning then maybe look at small business management and bookkeeping courses and become a window cleaning company manager and build an empire!
Why do you still go to meetings? Do you like being beaten with a stick?
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On and off again JW girlfriend
by Crzysin inhello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.
each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.
i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.
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Onager
Thoughts:
DO. NOT. GET. BAPTISED.
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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?
by Jules Saturn ini was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.
he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.
i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.
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Onager
You know there's a reason that in all the films about dystopian totalitarian societies the hero is trying to escape\bring down said totalitarian society? They're not a good thing!
There's usually a character in the film who is happy being a slave. Think about the man in the Matrix eating steak and smoking a cigar. That's a PIMO that's happier being IN. He knows about the matrix, he know's it's not real, but he's happy eating up the lies.
Don't be that guy. Be Neo!
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How to "turn the tables" on still-in witness who pry about our status.
by stuckinarut2 inso many of us have had (perhaps well-meaning) jws ask us questions about our inactivity, or lack of attendance at meetings.
they may pry about why..... how is this for a simple, yet straight to the point response?
to a sincere person, it may play on their mind and make them ask more questions.
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Onager
cha ching8 hours ago8 hours agoI understand what you are saying scratchme.... I kind of feel the same way.... I know how JWs think…
But........
Like stuckinarut was musing... I want to have a retort ready, to blast them if they ask. Kind of a 'damned if they do, and damned if they don't" kind of answer. I don’t like being left speechless, like I just got hit on the head.
My JW uber duber sister, with an elder for a husband, came up to me as I came to clean my JW mother's house, and announced to me:
"I just want you to know. We know you are not disfellowshipped, but you don't believe in the name of Jehovah. You are an apostate, and we ARE going to shun you"One possible answer could be:
"It is incredibly rude to tell a person what they believe. If you dictate my beliefs to me again I swear I will S**t in your screaming mouth. Now F**k off back in your box you glassy-eyed C**kwomble."