Posts by Onager

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GDPR: help for PIMOs

by Fay Dehr in

we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

Onager

But the Elders and Borg are so busy thesedays they probly don't have time to snoop.

Um, dude... That's what computers are for! All of this data goes in and they run some whizzy analytics software over it and then it tells them all sorts of stuff about the organisation at every level, right down to individual people.

They won't be going through every individuals data, but they might see that the UK spends 5% less than average on buying things on the website for example. Then they'd look at the UK and find that the county of Cumbria spends 20% less than the average for the UK ... then down to congregation level and they would then see that 4 people in congregation X don't spend anything on the website and who those people are... cue visit from the elders.

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Noah`s day Flood ? ( again) Waters Covering Active Volcanoes ?

by smiddy3 in

i know their have been many posts dedicated to this subject already and i apologize if this aspect has been handled before.. apart from the many other absurdities relating to the flood of noah`s day being literal as jehovah`s witnesses believe and already thrashed out here by the many posts previous.. i was wondering if this aspect has been considered that the waters would have had to cover over active volcanoes with what result ?.

their are a number of" active and resting" volcanoes at any one time around the earth and i`m just wondering if anyone more knowledgeable than me about the subject would like to weigh in and give their 2 cents worth in what effect a global flood covering volcanoes would have ?.

i am aware their are fissures in the deep oceans where volcanic activity occurs ,but is this the same ?.

Onager

I'm not a geologist, but I imagine that there would be permanent evidence left behind if a major active volcano was submerged. All the volcano's on the earth that were active 4,000 years ago would show signs of the same event too.

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Beard update

by Coded Logic in

so it's been over a month since i decided to grow a beard.

the mustache and chin have come in fuller than i ever imagined - while the cheeks leave me wondering if i'll ever grow enough hair to make it not look so wildly unkept and patchy (if anyone has any advice here it'd be much appreciated).

but in the mean time i'll give it another month and see how it goes.. .

Onager

Yeah, I have the same issue. Patchy coverage on the mid-cheek zone. I just use the trimmer without a head on that area to get rid of the stragglers. If I really cared I'd use a razor, but a trimmer without a head gets close enough for me.

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I think I was terribly wrong...

by sinboi in

i have once commented under the topic "are you better off as a worldly person or a jw?

i am a born-in but left nearly a year ago at age 16. i would say when i was a jw and was still fully convinced that it is the truth, i was happier.

i have a hope then.

Onager

You're a great person Sinboi! I've loved seeing you working through things on this forum, starting off with an idea, deciding it's wrong and moving on. Keep it up!

\Salute

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Jehovah Misses Me

by Phoebe in

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made the mistake of opening the front door today...i was expecting someone to service our central heating...oh dear, it was a sister instead :(.

she tells me jehovah misses me.

it seems god only sees me if i go to the meetings.

Onager

"Jehovah misses you."

"Jehovah is god right?"

"Yes!"

"Well, god knows everything, so he knows my mobile number and if he misses me so much he can call me."

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Another marriage bites the dust ...

by EdenOne in

... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.

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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".

Onager

I'm sorry that you're going through this EdenOne. My wife is Bipolar and I seriously underestimated how much of an impact it was going to have on our relationship. With everything else that's been thrown at you as well I think you're a legend for keeping going as long as you have.

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Jewish God Yahweh Originated in Canaanite Vulcan, Says New Theory

by greek in

the cult of yhwh as god of metallurgy originated among semi-nomadic copper smelters between the bronze and iron age, suggests biblical scholar: and he was not worshipped only by jews.. https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.magazine-jewish-god-yahweh-originated-in-canaanite-vulcan-says-new-theory-1.5992072.

according to amzallag, long before becoming the deity of the israelites, yahweh was a god of metallurgy in the ancient canaanite pantheon, worshipped by smelters and metalworkers throughout the levant, not just by the hebrews.

where did the yhwh cult originate?

Onager

Argh! The article is behind a paywall!

Can you say what the links are to Yaweh in the bible and copper smelting and metallurgy? I always thought that the Yahweh origins were more flood \ water based?

Also there's an anti-settled civilisation or pro-nomadic theme to a lot of the biblical Yaweh's laws (emphasis on tents, prohibition on pork which have to be reared in settlements unlike sheep and goats etc.). Wouldn't copper smelting also require settlements with furnaces and smithy buildings?

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Apostate driven lies

by pleaseresearch in

ok guys and gals.. let's have them.

as horrible as this may be i really want to see a few examples.

all my life i was taught that apostates just spread lies and falsehoods.. yet since i have left the organisation and looked deeply into apostate articles.

Onager

You mean lies or falsehoods about the JW's I'm assuming?

That sort of thing is most likely to be about individuals and personal grievances rather than ideology and teachings. I don't know of any but I imagine it would be something like:

"All the elders in congregation X are drunkards and their wives are gossips."

I suppose you could have a statement like "Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Christmas because they secretly celebrate Satan's birthday." But I've never heard anyone deliberately lying about JW beliefs. Why would you need to when their beliefs are obviously nonsense anyway?

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JWs on campus

by Sarabethy in

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it's my first time on this site though i am no stranger in the ex-jw community.

i come to you now asking for your assistance in what to present to the dean of students at my university.. why am i meeting with dean of students, you may ask?

because today, while innocently finishing an assignment in the school library, i happened to look out the window and see the jws with their stupid little cart.

Onager

Is there a group or religion that is already banned from advertising on campus, a group like the Moonies maybe? If so, what similarities are there between the JW's and the banned groups?

I just went on the University of Alaska Southeast to see if I could find out any info, but got totally sidetracked by the page on Bear safety! How cool is it that the health and safety policy has 5 pages on Bears! I'm going to take this advice to heart:

"Fight any black bear regardless of circumstances."

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses always answer questions through the bible?

by MarieChii in

hi.. recently i've been researching jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs and found out that they don't believe in blood transfusions.

so, i've asked one of my friends who is a jw as to what is the reason for this, and so far, they had always directed me to a bible verse that is in their bible.. clearly, i wasn't getting anywhere and so far, it's pretty much frustrating to even make my friend give me reasonable reason.

when i was getting somewhere, even a smidgen, they would answer with a question.

Onager

smiddy3an hour agoan hour agoThe stock answer by many J.W`s is" OH I wouldn`t use fractions of blood"{many do of course } they miss the point .The GB of J.W`s has said it`s o.k to do so ?

Yep, that's what my JW's say. It highlights that under that Global brotherhood of Unity veneer the real attitude is "I'm alright Jack".

Some JW's may accept blood fractions (and burn at Armageddon) but I'm a true JW and I'll be fine, sort of thing.