I'm not sure that's a mistake as such. Whatever line of reasoning that you go down based on logic and evidence is going to run into the brick wall of blind belief. I reckon that if you're having fun then don't worry about it and carry on! :)
Onager
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Anti-witnessing mistake by me !
by Phizzy ina couple of times while i was anti-witnessing i have made a fundamental mistake, which was to try to show the believer that it was neither intellectually nor scientifically necessary for there to be a creator.
the discussion got to this point because i said i was an atheist.. this latest time was talking to a street preacher who was not a j.w, but he did the same thing they do, i.e not really listen to the points i made, tried to rubbish science etc.. i have decided when, (if), this happens again i shall say something along the lines of " whoa there !
you have done a huge leap from talking about your bible god to the matter of a creator, if i concede there was a creator, how can you prove it was your god ?".
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018
by Not_Culty inhttps://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.
to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".
september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.
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Onager
I once went to a party on a Friday night and took a bunch of magic mushroom caps and had a wild, trippy, time. On the Saturday night I went to a JW bbq party, in a town called Evesham in the UK. Before I left for the bbq my friend who I'd partied with the night before suggested we share the mushroom stalks, which I agreed to because I thought they might give a mild buzz.
Turns out there's at least as much psychoactive ingredients in the stalks as there are in the caps. The problem is it can take a good couple of hours to start having an effect, so I was well into the JW party, burnt sausage bun in hand, when it all began to kick off. Have you ever tried to have a conversation about the ministry with someone who has the face of a cat? It's hard. When someone asked me why I'd been staring at the sky for over half an hour (clouds becoming teddy bears... riveting), I managed to get someone to drive me home. Suffice to say I won't be doing that again!
(The JW party, not the mushrooms!)
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God and the afterlife. Do you need to believe in both
by moley ini consider myself an atheist, i completely reject the idea of a totalitarian desert god/any god and the bible is a book of fairytales and folk legends.. i do however sort of believe that this life is not all there is.
i’m not talking about heaven or hell but in a tangible state of being.. there are a few experiences i’ve had in my llife.
could be imagined could be real.
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Onager
Hey Moley,
Have you read this book:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sum-Tales-Afterlives-David-Eagleman/dp/1847674275
I found it fascinating. There's so much possibility out there and we have no idea and no way of finding out what comes after and anyone that says they do know is a fraud.
I also found this article very interesting:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/dd52796e-5935-414e-af0c-de9686d02afa
It talks about the sensation of "Ego death" when taking DMT, which is somewhat analogous to dying but still being aware. It's all in your head of course, but it perhaps gives an insight into a world without you in it.
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 inwhen god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
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Onager
My main wake up moments were two stage. I realised that evolution was true but, more important was when I found out just how much the Creation book was misquoting and bending the facts to make it's arguments.
Then when I realised that the Flood story was impossible, I also realised that it fit in perfectly with the view of the world of the time.
People often talk of the puzzle pieces falling into place, but sometimes it's just as important how the puzzle pieces fit together.
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First year with baby!
by Darkknight757 ini wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.
this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.
she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.
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Onager
Beautiful little one! My boy would have died in childbirth if it wasn't for medical science and possibly my wife too. Thank goodness for the wonderful people of the NHS.
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 inwhen god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
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Onager
Could you give a summary of what prophecies you think are true? I'm not going to click on a link that could send me Dog knows where.
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 inwhen god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
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Onager
The problem is that Paradise is magic wavy hand land. Any problem can be waved away. Any logical inconsistency is smoothed over by the wizard in the sky.
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Who wrote the Bible?
by Ireneus inthe wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.
to mention a few:.
1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.
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Ireneus
I have no problem in identifying what is inherently and intrinsically good.
Yes, you make the choice, so you are the creator. Somebody could do exactly what you've done with the Bible with the Quran, or any other book, and achieve exactly the same result.
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The Kardashian women are double agents for the Patriarchy
by LoveUniHateExams init's absolutely true - jameela jamil said so in a channel 4 interview and guardian columnist frances ryan agrees.. kim kardashian promotes an appetite-suppressant lollipop to all her instagram followers ... because that's what the patriarchy (the male of the species) wants, right?.
kim k has her own ideas about health and beauty, and chooses to push that onto her followers?.
get real you mug.. actually, she's a double agent that seeks to do, not her own will, but the will of the patriarchy that sent her.. yep, god's honest.
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Onager
Where do we get these appetite suppressing lollipops??!!
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Who wrote the Bible?
by Ireneus inthe wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.
to mention a few:.
1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.
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Onager
So you take the bible and you say "This bit isn't true, and this bit... and this whole section here. But this bit is the true and perfect word of God."
Congratulations, you have made your own bible. This means that the person who wrote the bible is you!